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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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If you're going with the great conspiracy of GOP as Russian assets, you should also add Elon Musk and the other tech robber barons as Russian assets as well.

What is your explanation for Trump putting tariffs on every country in the world except Russia?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

More seriously, the NSF isn't the focus of the admin. They're going through every federal agency making cuts, not singling out this one in particular.

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Last week, staff were briefed on a new process for vetting grant proposals that are found to be out of step with a presidential directive on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI),... In the new structure, even if a revised proposal gets the green light from a division director, a new body whose membership has not been determined will take a fresh look to ensure it conforms to the agency’s new standard for making awa…

DEI in practice is illegal (we don't get to make decisions based on race, or other protected categories of a person's identity). I get trained on this once a year at work. What we do instead is improve the probability that underrepresented people can enter the hiring pipeline, e.g., by investing in schools.

(DEI:) Instead of focusing on any aspect of someone's genetics of beliefs, efforts should instead be made to provide opportunity to those without. Not at the inherent cost of others whom are qualified but in the sense of doing what a government should do: civil infrastructure.

Everywhere should have plentiful good quality housing, medical, schools, everything else that is part of the infrastructure of society.

Give those kids, and even the poor workers, nutritious meals to ensure they are ready to function as members of society.

Welfare / unemployment 'insurance' shouldn't be about just getting a paycheck, they should be about connecting those without work to work that benefits society and the people who are now getting a job or furthering training towards a job rather than sitting around hoping someone will hire.

Generally: government (of the people, by the people, for the people) should be about stewardship of the commons, the shared space between private areas.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Last week, staff were briefed on a new process for vetting grant proposals that are found to be out of step with a presidential directive on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI),... In the new structure, even if a revised proposal gets the green light from a division director, a new body whose membership has not been determined will take a fresh look to ensure it conforms to the agency’s new standard for making awa…

DEI in practice is illegal (we don't get to make decisions based on race, or other protected categories of a person's identity). I get trained on this once a year at work. What we do instead is improve the probability that underrepresented people can enter the hiring pipeline, e.g., by investing in schools.

It isn't just about hiring, it is about the research too. If I make a grant proposal about making a better wheelchair, that's on the ban list too.

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I'm sorry, but that sounds like an excuse. Yes, when you have to vote between the lesser of two evils, but one of them is blatantly more evil and incompetent than the other, you're responsible for choosing the more evil and incompetent option and the damage that results. No system is perfect, and few countries provide morally and politically pure options to vote for in national elections. So an informed and engaged p…

It seems like you're trying to argue and assign blame. I'm not here for that. Just explaining what I understand of what the blue collar folks I know are thinking.

Not trying to argue, though blame is deserved for those who voted for Trump this time around.

I'm not saying that out of anger, that's just the nature of democracy and that the corollary of a voting public being able to choose their leaders means they're responsible when they make bad choices. That, in turn should trigger national debates, reflection, and reform hopefully, else the US will continue to head down an ever-increasingly authoritarian and populist path.

I certainly don't want the US to go down that path, nor do I enjoy seeing the damage being done now. I just believe that if we coddle voters who made terrible political choices they're just going to keep making those bad choices election after election.

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The irony is that in their supposed effort to "Make America Great Again" they're going to end up accelerating China's rise. We may have decided that basic research is no longer something we want to do, but China's going to continue to forge ahead and leave us in the dust. All thanks to people who have no understanding of how anything works, but only want to tear things down that they don't understand.

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Is there any evidence towards this allegiance? Why should we attribute to malice what we could attribute to incompetence, or greed?

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If you're going with the great conspiracy of GOP as Russian assets, you should also add Elon Musk and the other tech robber barons as Russian assets as well.

Some witting, some not. I am not convinced all of DOGE are actual Russian assets. That would be too conspiratorial.

But that they’re all compromised? That’s much more likely. We know for a fact that at least a couple are pwned.

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Are the Teslas in the Vegas Boring Loop still driven by humans? If so, how is it that Tesla seems unwilling to assume liability for what has to be one of the simplest driving tasks?

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Last week, staff were briefed on a new process for vetting grant proposals that are found to be out of step with a presidential directive on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI),... In the new structure, even if a revised proposal gets the green light from a division director, a new body whose membership has not been determined will take a fresh look to ensure it conforms to the agency’s new standard for making awa…

They're even sending letters to foreign governments "ordering" them to cut all DEI programs. OTHER GOVERNMENTS. Insanity.

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