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Sneakers (1992) – 4K makeover sourced from the original camera negative

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Re: Sneakers (1992) – 4K makeover sourced from the original camera negative

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Post by bravoetch »

MisterTea wrote: post #102
xattt wrote: post #82

Re: negative re-masters I can’t help but notice that a number of older and very prominent shows on streaming services are clearly ripped from a video cassette. For example, the older Simpsons episodes on Disney Plus. Some of the episodes have very prominent dot crawl which is unacceptable for a digital format that you pay for. I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to vide…

> Were studios really that reckless with their properties? Some were. Once the film made its money in the theaters it was then put in a vault and forgotten about. The theaters were supposed to return the release prints but sometimes the projectionist would "lose" them. The studio vault those films sat in sometimes catch fire or water leaks in. If the originals are destroyed then hopefully a few release prints are flo…

There are several Star Wars film projects that are collecting old film print, negatives, laser disc, etc and using that to remake the original releases. Gemini is very good at listing off all these projects, if you're interested.

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Post by rbanffy »

ynniv wrote: post #169
bink wrote: post #165

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I think the only part that really pulled me out of the movie was when they were testing the device and it was decrypting a dial-up feed random character by random character on the screen. It wasn't "Hackers" bad but it was still pretty unbelievable.

Once you accept that a movie isn't a documentary, Hackers is a lot of fun. The editor of 2600 consulted on it (and lent his nym)

The soundtrack is much, much, better.

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Post by pavlov »

The design of Blu-ray.com makes me nostalgic for a web where 12px Verdana was the obvious ideal body font, margins were an optional luxury, and Mac OS X Aqua-style shiny blue-gray gradients behind a menu bar were the height of sophistication. (You want just a little bit of blue glow at the bottom of the gradient for that translucent 3D effect that Steve Jobs called "lickable".)

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Post by rbanffy »

dylan604 wrote: post #144
AStonesThrow wrote: post #85

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Yes but many times, these can be quite valuable inferences. Shoes are indeed a valuable source of information about a person. I knew at least one BH case manager who really paid attention to them. Shoes are expensive, very durable, and typically one of those items that people have only a few pairs of. So while someone can easily change their outfit to match a situation, place, or mood for the day, they may be less li…

> Shoes are expensive, very durable, and typically one of those items that people have only a few pairs of. Maybe that used to be true, but modern shoes while expensive are not very durable, and most people have several pairs today.

Expensive shoes are still a good indicator of social status.

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Post by gopher_space »

Ntrails wrote: post #78
sbarre wrote: post #74

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I saw Sneakers when it first came out in theatres and at the time I was in high school and working part-time in a shoe store.. I had learned from the store owner that you can tell so much from someone's shoes, often more than from their clothes. Combined with that line in this very formative movie (for me), I still to this day can't help but check someone's shoes when I first meet them.

> you can tell so much from someone's shoes You can make educated guesses based on apparel of all sorts - but you are always guessing .

Other way around. The clothes you wear are a method of communication you're actively engaging in whether you're aware of it or not. This is a really useful thing to be aware of, since it lets you craft narratives in other people's heads.

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Post by meifun »

ethbr1 wrote: post #198
meifun wrote: post #71

This movie helped me: 1. Relate to a blind student in our school when they could hear things differently than the rest of us. 2. Realize that social engineering is thing and I tried to practice it in high school to gain access to computer rooms where the "fancy" computers were. 3. Realize that a government can steal or in general can be sneaky/secretive.

> Realize that social engineering is thing and I tried to practice it in high school to gain access to computer rooms where the "fancy" computers were. We realized that door bolts are easy to manually jimmy if not precision-fit. Thankfully, our computer lab overseer was a hacker at heart, congratulated us, and got the door fixed. I miss the 90s.

Agreed. I talked my way into the server room several times by different night janitors at my old high school back in 1996. I told them I was there to do maintenance and it wasn't entirely untrue but I was there for running wires and setting up new Macs as part of my class load.

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Post by rbanffy »

doublerabbit wrote: post #193
dylan604 wrote: post #138

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>I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to video tape. So many shows very much were composited to analog video tape. I personally worked on edit sessions where multiple film-to-tape transfers were composited to 1" then BetacamSP then digital formats like DigiBeta and everything that followed. I get it is hard to grok for eople without direct experience only ever knowing di…

O/T: I've discovered that the animation studio I had a gig for has shut it's doors recently to liquidation. They had a killer render archival server with archives from 2000-onwards show casing what the studio had studio made. Cartoons, Movies; a collection of praised possessions. It pains me to think that the studio has handed this over to the liquidators only for it to be shredded and now how many OG copies have now…

I’d assume the hard drives live now in someone’s basement. A lot of people save things like that from destruction.

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Post by ElevenLathe »

bayindirh wrote: post #122
Aurornis wrote: post #115

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The X-Files went the opposite way: The streaming release was remastered from higher quality originals that had been prepared ahead of time for the eventual arrival of higher resolution TV. I’m not surprised that some shows were never archived at higher quality, though. The entertainment industry has a lot of people who just want to get their job done and go home, just like any other industry. Many classic series were…

> The entertainment industry has a lot of people who just want to get their job done and go home, just like any other industry. I think another reason, in addition to yours, is that the entertainment industry sees their products are disposable, or want them to be disposable. This way they can pull the drain plug from the pool, so they can pump in new content into it. Otherwise, listening same good old songs will inev…

I work in gaming and this is very much the same attitude, though it is starting to change: with things like Xbox Game Pass, there are now theoretically revenues to be skimmed from older releases via subscription revenues, so there is at least lip service paid to proper archiving of working files and source code. It's still tough to make the case not to phone home or rely on publisher-hosted services.

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Post by rbanffy »

Aurornis wrote: post #115
xattt wrote: post #82

Re: negative re-masters I can’t help but notice that a number of older and very prominent shows on streaming services are clearly ripped from a video cassette. For example, the older Simpsons episodes on Disney Plus. Some of the episodes have very prominent dot crawl which is unacceptable for a digital format that you pay for. I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to vide…

The X-Files went the opposite way: The streaming release was remastered from higher quality originals that had been prepared ahead of time for the eventual arrival of higher resolution TV. I’m not surprised that some shows were never archived at higher quality, though. The entertainment industry has a lot of people who just want to get their job done and go home, just like any other industry. Many classic series were…

We knew HD TV was coming since the days of the first analog demos (1125i, IIRC). It’s also a matter of budget to shoot in high quality film, shoot widescreen, and get any SFX/VFX at least recomposed. Entire series of Dr Who were lost to originals being reused.
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