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Post by doublerabbit »

ArinaS wrote: post #194
doublerabbit wrote: post #189

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Vendors. Mobile phone providers, Television companies, News Corporations, Advertising companies. I am locked out from viewing reading groups unless I have a facebook account. I can't even read reviews on Amazon without a Amazon account. You do have the choice not to view, watch or use. And if you desire to create your own site for "social media" the uphill battle is so greatly regulated in their honour you can't due…

> " But if you desire to create your own site for social media the uphill battle is so great regulated in their honour, it's not possible. " Fediverse exists quite successfully.

You mean an open-twitter clone that caters to a very niche set of individuals? A complex system to work with.

I hate the whole gimmick of 150 character messages. That's not independent like the web was once.

Discord makes you pay to upload videos, sounds and those were all existing on MSN, Yahoo, A!M for free.

Everyone at my school knew of NewsGrounds, mySpace, BeBo, LiveJournal. Me and my friends had hosted ProBoards forums where we used to discuss stuff. You can't even do that according to the new Ofcom laws.

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Post by pjc50 »

voidUpdate wrote: post #212
cbg0 wrote: post #73

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You shouldn't be logging in to a server via SSH using a user+password combo, instead use a public/private key combo which is considerably more complex and can't effectively be bruteforced like a user+password. Most web servers don't really come with any built in defense against brute force attempts vs Basic Auth gates, so unless you've set something up to protect it, someone with enough time will eventually get in.

Genuine question that I haven't found a good solution to yet, if I want to just go to any old computer and ssh into my server, do I have to carry around a USB stick with the ssh key on or something? because I sure as hell wont be able to just remember it

The preferred solution would be something like a Yubikey. However:

> just go to any old computer and ssh into my server

You've typed your password into a computer you don't control. Now it's gone. Same for plugging in the USB stick. The Yubikey approach mitigates that.

Assuming you want to do this, the best practice you can achieve is just making the password long.

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Post by ozmodiar »

brigandish wrote: post #98

I see a lot of hate for 4chan here. Why? I’ve never used it, know it by reputation, but not sure why there’s so much hate for it.

I hope this isn't too contentious but I'll try to cover most things. I've posted this a few times, but I checked out 4Chan about twice in the early days and saw CSAM both times and it gave me personally a visceral hatred of the site. I've heard it got better/that's not representative but it's a hard thing to shake. The origin of the site is also supposedly Moot getting kicked off SomethingAwful for posting 'lolicon' (child anime porn). They've also gone after and doxxed pedophiles though, so the sites relationship with that sort of content is... complicated. I think most of the worst ended up moving to 4Chan clones quite awhile ago because it really splintered again at some point and became known as the cleaner Chan board.

It's also known for its extremely abrasive mildy sociopathic culture and 4Chan posters have a very samey 'posting voice' where if you don't like it you can hate it. It permeates a lot of the internet, but 4chan is kind of seen as the epicenter. I think it also gets blamed for a lot of negative internet culture like doxxing and choosing targets to harass, although I'm not sure how much of that was actually 4Chan. I think most of those people moved on to Kiwifarms. 4Chan probably gets some hate for things that other Chan sites have like Qanon in a sort of 'you started this' way.

And finally the politics are complicated. It actually used to be slightly left leaning or at least libertarian or anarchist, but over the years pol in particular has been known to be hard right wing. It definitely seems like they had a shift in political tone for the (IMO) worst at some point.

Personally I won't hide that I'm a hater and an unapologetic curmudgeonly old man, but that's my perception. On the other hand if you think the CP stuff is overblown, don't care about the negatives because there are apparently good boards there that are insulated, or are just hard right yourself then it is one of the last major discussion boards on the net. Some of that's probably out of date (like I said I gave up on it pretty quickly) but I'd wager most people with negative opinions are thinking of one or more of those. I'd be interested if any haters have other reasons.

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Post by theossuary »

y-curious wrote: post #175
a0123 wrote: post #55

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Damn, the culture they have bred and actively maintained is now going to be turned against them? It might end up making them more sympathetic people on the long term. They might realise the seriousness of what they have done to others.

You don't like to lump people into groups by race/country of origin but find no cognitive dissonance in lumping people together by platform choice.

"Wow, you'd group people by their actions and beliefs but not by immutable characteristics they were born with?!" /s

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Post by cwmma »

sgarland wrote: post #139
Red_Tarsius wrote: post #88

I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

> bodybuilding.com Obligatory post about the dumbest argument to ever be had online [0]. It’s so good, the Wikipedia entry [1] has a section devoted to it. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20240123134202/https://forum.bod... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding.com

For the record this is an example of the "Fencepost error" where the last item in a range gets double counted as the first item in the next range and is incredibly common in dyscalculia (the math version of dyslexia) as people will have "visual number lines" in their head that cover ranges of numbers but the ends get double counted, so there will be a 10-20 number line then a 20-30 number line.

I suspect TheJosh had something like that with the week where he visualized it with Sundays at both ends but lacked the self awareness to realize that this was not a universal representation.

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Post by DrillShopper »

arkh wrote: post #202
flmontpetit wrote: post #140

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It used to be a diverse place without much to tie all the boards and users together save for a shared commitment to counter-culture. Then GamerGate and Donald Trump happened. "Every board is /pol/" was one of the most frequent replies you would see for a while until all the halfway decent people left. /g/ is where I and a lot of people learned about FOSS advocacy and now it's just gamer hardware and transphobia.

Let me be bold: transphobia is counter-culture nowadays (at least in Western societies). Counter-culture is not always a good thing.

> Let me be bold: transphobia is counter-culture nowadays

No it's not. It's as mainstream as you get. One of the two major parties ran explicitly on a platform of transphobia ("keep men out of women's bathroom", "your daughter is being beaten up in sports by a man"). You can't call it counter-culture anymore.

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Post by DrillShopper »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #2

If you lamented the disappearance of the "old internet", well, this was a part of it, and now it may be gone too. The title is also a fair bit understated. They're leaking the moderators home addresses and work contact info (for admins, who are(were?) paid moderators)

4chan is not "old internet". Not even close. It's predated by a bunch of forums (including 2channel) on the Internet, some anonymous.

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Post by Philpax »

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #133
properpopper wrote: post #110

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For users who aren't familiar with 4chan - this post describes only one board - /pol/, where you can find hateful posts about every race and religion. 4chan have 30+ boards in total

To add context, every male in my high school went on that site. Pol was just a place crazy people posted. We used to laugh and read eachother dumb copypastas at lunch with gorgonzola cheese rhymes and bad puns. The average 15yo boy have enough mental hygiene to know everything you read online is false. The website is not a nazi factory.

Hmm, I'm not sure all 15 year old boys do, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting

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Post by DrillShopper »

sznio wrote: post #44
knowknow wrote: post #12

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Is it considered part of it? From my understanding, the culture has changed significantly and post get auto deleted eventually, so it’s not a good archive either. The only thing old about it is it’s web design

the mechanics are old there's no other online community i know of that still allows fully anonymous posting the culture changed, but the "environment" causing the culture there to be the way it is still same as the original. the bump/delete mechanics work well to promote the most controversial, most engaging content, without any advanced statistics or ML. despite being a shitty place, i don't feel advertised to, spie…

> there's no other online community i know of that still allows fully anonymous posting

Usenet?

It even has the issue of old posts disappearing when the retention at your UNIX system / ISP rolled over.

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