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Post by bumby »

zwnow wrote: post #172
bumby wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have children? That was a prerequisite for the question. If you do, it implies you don’t consider the relationship with your children either meaningful or beneficial, which says…a lot.

If I asked a tiger if murder is wrong i would get a different answer as opposed to a human. What kind of argument are you making.

Transformational experience colors the way we see the world because it literally changes our psychology. If you haven’t gone through a particular transformational experience, you are just speculating.

It’s like asking, “could you be happy if you were a double amputee?” I trust the answer of an actual amputee than someone just guessing.

The tiger thing is just a weird digression, considering this conversation started with the premise that humans are an innately social species. Let’s keep the discussion on point with humans.

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Post by nhinck3 »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #181

A LLM could have told you that this is badly written, maybe consult one next time.

I too consult AIs to see how I should feel about the quality of artistic works because I've given up all ability to think for myself.

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Post by hersko »

This is insane. We have created the greatest tool in human history and people are complaining. I can use it to help me code, fix modeling issues as I learn CAD, help me troubleshoot the issues in my two-stroke leafblower engine and can consistently walk me through complex leetcode algorithms. It literally knows everything and people still complain.

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Post by Cerium »

latexr wrote: post #17

> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

The fact that your tired of that line is the point here. We're tired of it. It does this, copies common content and style.

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Post by nottorp »

latexr wrote: post #207
nottorp wrote: post #110

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I and the article are talking about the serious techy hysterias that will make you BILLIONS if you only got into them in time. Not some measly free to play gambling app.

The article is clearly talking specifically about AI, you’re the one generalising it. > A decommissioned nuclear power station required to power it. How many tech hysterias fit that?

If it's decommissioned it doesn't provide any power does it?

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Post by zwnow »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #186
zwnow wrote: post #176

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You not seeing arguments doesn't invalidate them. You arent the judge on this.

Do you think this response will convince anyone that you are correct? You still fail to provide an argument; you're just being unpleasant. To what end? Is that what not having empathy in a society feels like? People just talking at each other without any particular goal in mind other than being unpleasant to each other?

What do I gain from convincing people on the internet about something? Its entertainment for me. Simply showing people how I think is fun. People always act so shocked.

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Post by _Algernon_ »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #54

Nobody asked for it??? Nobody wants it??? You're not paying attention. I want it. I think it's our only chance at quickly solving huge complex problems like aging, cancer, Alzheimer's.

Funneling power and influence into the hands of the few (which is the practical consequence of AI) can be used to solve problems, but history shows us that it rarely will be used for that purpose.

The drag in decision making of democracy is a feature, not a bug.

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Post by zwnow »

gyesxnuibh wrote: post #191
zwnow wrote: post #123

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Society already is full of rogues and guess who is winning in this game? The super rich already buying themselves out of society, punishment usually only hurts the ones who already barely own anything. Whats the benefit of a "society"?

There are other societies than the American one and I recommend you look at them before you make such sweeping statements

I am not American, and the same thing is happening in every country.

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

zwnow wrote: post #205
mdp2021 wrote: post #177

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> and guess who is winning Again that is your perspective on "winning", which remains subjective (and normally faulty). Others call psychopathic achievers simply "contemptible". > Whats the benefit of a "society"? That would be the whole work of Thomas Hobbes, for example: avoiding the nightmare of perpetual conflict. It is very linear to see the benefit of being able to trust your neighbour.

Trusting your neighbor already is a mistake. Well people like me benefit from society as I can benefit from people being naive.

>Well people like me benefit from society as I can benefit from people being naive

Then, you acknowledge that you benefit from empathy. But only so long as people do not detect that you are not participating in mutual understanding and reciprocation. Once they notice your lack of genuine engagement, your previously gained benefits will disappear.

On the other hand, people who exhibit empathy towards others will continue to benefit.

Do you see that, by your own logic, empathy is beneficial to society?

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