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Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Technology connections is great. I've never been more excited to listen to a man talk about dishwashers for 20 minutes.

Still can't find powder where I am. It's all tabs. I need that prewash, dammit!

I just cut off a slice of tab (using one of the dirty knives) and throw it in the bottom of the dishwasher before starting it.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Musk paling around with accounts like CaptiveDreamer (whose handle is from the memoir of an SS officer and whose content tracks that).

Okay. But, statistically speaking, America has a Neo Nazi population of 0%. It seems hyperbolic (at best) to saddle all Twitter users with that association, when it is a vanishingly small issue. Not to mention, Nazis actually murdered millions of Jews, so calling your ideological opponent a "Neo-Nazi", cheapens the memory of people who suffered at the hands of actual Nazis, and diminishes the effort that was mounted…

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Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Alec also cited this video as at least a partial motivator for his video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNOol5OTasw It focuses on the harmful nature of infinitely scrolling content. Cutting out all infinite scrolling apps has had a hugely positive effect on my productivity and mental health.

How does HN fit into that? I’m not trying to be cheeky, I’m genuinely interested, HN is technically an infinite website (though you do have to click “More”) yet you’re here. Do you use the noprocrast settings? Does HN just fit differently into your brain? Something else?

A few years ago I set up a ublock filter to hide the next/more buttons on hacker news and reddit. It works great because I can still get my news fix, but I can't scroll endlessly.

Ublock Origin: ! 2020-10-11 https://news.ycombinator.com news.ycombinator.com##.morelink

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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For most of my life I've generally relied on advice or information about potential sources from trusted peers and sources I know are reliable because they can and will back up their reasoning with reliable references.

So far that doesn't include any algorithms I've run into.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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Read Filterworld by Kyle Chayka (https://bookshop.org/p/books/filterworld-how-algorithms-flat...>); it's a fine enough read, and while I thought myself already avoiding a lot of algorithmic stuff, he did a good job pointing out the places where I was still being dictated to (e.g. what businesses a map surfaced, what flights the search engine promoted). His discussion of tastemakers and curation were the most interesting part, I thought, and in particular how algorithms push toward the boring.

>Taste is an abstract, ineffable, unstable thing. A listener to music or reader of a book cannot truly tell if they will enjoy something before they experience it; pleasure in a piece of art is never guaranteed. So when encountering an artwork, we immediately evaluate it by some set of mental principles, and, hopefully, find the beauty in it, feel affirmed, even if we can't quite describe what that beauty is or how exactly we determined it in the first place. Taste is supposed to be ambiguous. As the Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben summarized in his 1979 monograph on taste, "Taste enjoys beauty, without being able to explain it."

and then

>As taste requires surprise, it also thrives on challenge and risk, treading too far in a particular direction. Safety may avoid embarrassment, but it's also boring.

and so

>The bounds of aesthetic acceptability become tighter and tighter until all that's left is a column in the middle. While popular styles shift, like moving targets, the centralization and normalization persist.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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I try to keep a few things in mind whenever I'm arguing with somebody that I think are helpful (hopefully): 1. Most arguments come down to defining words, even if you may not realise it. 2. Don't follow rabbitholes. Don't deviate from arguing your core premise. 3. You're not trying to prove the other person wrong, you're trying to find the truth. On #1 for example; I watched a video of a conservative arguing liberals…

In the case of Reddit: 4. It's not that unlikely that you are arguing with an actual child who has picked up enough terminology to be dangerous but completely lacks any deeper understanding.

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Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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I was definitely influenced to write this by Alec's excellent video which I recommend everyone watch. I'd hoped it would be a way to share my own opinions on it, summarise my own personal concerns, as well as adding my own recommendations - but totally appreciate if you feel it is derivative, and I appreciate the call out. As a big Technology Connections fan I certainly don't intend to steal his work. It's also inten…

>by Alec's excellent video which I recommend everyone watch. I get what your advice is about but to add some nuance which didn't cover... you should consider that I learned of Alec's Technology Connections channel 9 years ago because the Youtube algorithm suggested it to me . Why did Youtube do that? It was because I had watched Ben's Applied Science excellent video showing vinyl grooves under an electron microscope:…

I started using Youtube as a frequent content source in the past year. I've been aggressively curating my recommendations by clicking "Not interested" on anything I don't want to see a lot of. If I'm curious I'll watch the one video but in Incognito. If a channel gets repeatedly re-recommended I don't hesitate to use "Don't recommend channel". I also +like everything I've watched and subscribe to channels I'll more likely watch than not watch new content. Getting recommendations pruned feels like getting to a zero email Inbox.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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`We don’t all have the freedom, interest or willpower to delete social media from our lives entirely.`

i am really against this notion. why do we have to surrender ourselves to this forced reality. i really don't find any other beneficial use of social media except of advertise and making profit. (personally i see it immoral to feed this evil machine and run away). so the only real solution is to delete social media altogether or don't tap on user's backs and guide them to more moderate use because it doesn't makes a difference.

Re: Kill your Feeds – Stop letting algorithms dictate what you think

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I dislike any politics or clickbait too and it doesn’t come back. I have no complaints about my Instagram and YouTube feeds. They give good recommendations.

> I dislike any politics TikTok in particular sneaks politics into everything. Even if it's not explicitly political. I asked Deepseek once to walk me through what it knows about TikTok and it claimed the Chinese version uses an RL approach to sprinkle socialist core values into your feed even if you explicitly don't want politics. It also claimed TikTok absolutely promises it doesn't do this in the US. I'm not reall…

good, they should sprinkle socialist values in. what's the other option, passive acceptance of capitalist exploitation? people need to be educated.

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Technology connections is great. I've never been more excited to listen to a man talk about dishwashers for 20 minutes.

This is exactly why I describe HN as “my home on the internet” These are my fellow people that will happily watch a 20 or 40 min video about how dishwashers work, or his more recent video about replicating old style Christmas lights.

I tried box detergent because of his dishwasher video, and that's probably saved me hundreds of dollars at this point, with the added benefit of my dishes actually get cleaner.

I also dumped a crappy beverage cooler in my office for a cheap as hell box mini-fridge, which actually maintains temperature enough that I can store cream for coffee and ice down here, and it uses less energy then the unit before.

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