Such a shame that PDF doesn’t just, like, include the semantic structure of the document by default. It is brilliant that we standardized on an archival document format that doesn’t include direct access to the document text or structure as a core intrinsic default feature. I say this with great anger as someone who works in accessibility and has had PDF as a thorn in my side for 30 years.
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#222Nice demos but I wonder how well it does on longer files. I've been experimenting with passing some fairly neat PDFs to various LLMs for data extraction. They're created from Excel exports and some of the data is cut off or badly laid out, but it's all digitally extractable. The challenge isn't so much the OCR part, but just the length. After one page the LLMs get "lazy" and just skip bits or stop entirely. And page…
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#223We're approaching the point where OCR becomes "solved" — very exciting! Any legacy vendors providing pure OCR are going to get steamrolled by these VLMs. However IMO, there's still a large gap for businesses in going from raw OCR outputs —> document processing deployed in prod for mission-critical use cases. LLMs and VLMs aren't magic, and anyone who goes in expecting 100% automation is in for a surprise. You still n…
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#224Great progress, but unfortunately, for our use case (converting medical textbooks from PDF to MD), the results are not as good as those by MinerU/PDF-Extract-Kit [1]. Also the collab link in the article is broken, found a functional one [2] in the docs. [1] https://github.com/opendatalab/MinerU [2] https://colab.research.google.com/github/mistralai/cookbook/...
In any case, thanks for sharing.
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#225Bit unrelated but is there anything that can help with really low resolution text? My neighbor got hit and run the other day for example, and I've been trying every tool I can to make out some of the letters/numbers on the plate https://ibb.co/mr8QSYnj
To even get started on this you'd also need to share some contextual information like continent, country etc. I'd say.
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#226Such a shame that PDF doesn’t just, like, include the semantic structure of the document by default. It is brilliant that we standardized on an archival document format that doesn’t include direct access to the document text or structure as a core intrinsic default feature. I say this with great anger as someone who works in accessibility and has had PDF as a thorn in my side for 30 years.
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#227Such a shame that PDF doesn’t just, like, include the semantic structure of the document by default. It is brilliant that we standardized on an archival document format that doesn’t include direct access to the document text or structure as a core intrinsic default feature. I say this with great anger as someone who works in accessibility and has had PDF as a thorn in my side for 30 years.
Printed documents do not have any structure beyond the paper and placement of ink on them.
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#228It's shocking how much our industry fails to see past its own nose. Not a single example on that page is a Purchase Order, Invoice etc. Not a single example shown is relevant to industry at scale.
Mistral is Europe based where invoices are more or less sent digitally in like 95% of all the cases anyway. Some are even digital invoices, which will at some point in the eu be mandatory. For orders there are proposals for that, too. And basically invoice data extraction is a different beast.
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#229Such a shame that PDF doesn’t just, like, include the semantic structure of the document by default. It is brilliant that we standardized on an archival document format that doesn’t include direct access to the document text or structure as a core intrinsic default feature. I say this with great anger as someone who works in accessibility and has had PDF as a thorn in my side for 30 years.
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#230I never thought I'd see the day where technology finally advanced far enough that we can edit a PDF.