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Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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No native docker support, no headless management options (enterprise strength), Limited QoS management, lack of robust python support (out of the box), interactive user focused security model.

>lack of robust python support (out of the box) What would robust python support oob look like?

uv pre-installed! /s

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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512GB of unified memory is truly breaking new ground. I was wondering when Apple would overcome memory constraints, and now we're seeing a half-terabyte level of unified memory. This is incredibly practical for running large AI models locally ("600 billion parameters"), and Apple's approach of integrating this much efficient memory on a single chip is fascinating compared to NVIDIA's solutions. I'm curious about how this design of "fusing" two M3 Max chips performs in terms of heat dissipation and power consumption though

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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Whoa. M3 instead of M4. I wonder if this was basically binning, but I thought that I had read somewhere that the interposer that enabled this for the M1 chips where not available. That Said, 512GB of unified ram with access to the NPU is absolutely a game changer. My guess is that Apple developed this chip for their internal AI efforts, and are now at the point where they are releasing it publicly for others to use.…

Keep in mind the minimum configuration that has 512GB of unified RAM is $9,499.

And how is it only £9,699.00!! Does that dollar price include sales tax or are Brits finally getting a bargain?

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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Whoa. M3 instead of M4. I wonder if this was basically binning, but I thought that I had read somewhere that the interposer that enabled this for the M1 chips where not available. That Said, 512GB of unified ram with access to the NPU is absolutely a game changer. My guess is that Apple developed this chip for their internal AI efforts, and are now at the point where they are releasing it publicly for others to use.…

If Apple supported Linux (headless) natively, and we could rack m4 pros, I absolutely would use them in our Colo. The CPUs have zero competition in terms of speed, memory bandwidth. Still blown away no other company has been able to produce Arm server chips that can compete.

Asahi is a thing. For headless usage it’s pretty much ready to go already.

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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No native docker support, no headless management options (enterprise strength), Limited QoS management, lack of robust python support (out of the box), interactive user focused security model.

1. I run Docker and Podman on my Macs. 2. If you mean MDM, there are several good options. Screen sharing and SSH are build in. 3. In what sense? 4. `uv python install whatever` is infinitely better than upgrading on the OS vendor’s schedule. 5. What does that affect?

>I run Docker and Podman on my Macs.

The same way Windows users run them. In a linux VM.

You don't get real on-hardware containerization.

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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If Apple supported Linux (headless) natively, and we could rack m4 pros, I absolutely would use them in our Colo. The CPUs have zero competition in terms of speed, memory bandwidth. Still blown away no other company has been able to produce Arm server chips that can compete.

Asahi is a thing. For headless usage it’s pretty much ready to go already.

The Asahi maintainer resigned recently. What that means for the future only time will tell. I probably wouldn't want to make a big investment in it right now.

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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If you don't run macOS, you don't have Apple iCloud Drive, Music, Fitness, Arcade, TV+ and News and that means a loss of revenue.

As I replied in else where here, I do not run any Apple Services on my Mac hardware. I do on my iDevices though, but that's a different topic. Again, I could be the edge case

> I do not run any Apple Services on my Mac hardware

Not even OCSP?

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

#228

Whoa. M3 instead of M4. I wonder if this was basically binning, but I thought that I had read somewhere that the interposer that enabled this for the M1 chips where not available. That Said, 512GB of unified ram with access to the NPU is absolutely a game changer. My guess is that Apple developed this chip for their internal AI efforts, and are now at the point where they are releasing it publicly for others to use.…

> This hardware is really being held back by the operating system at this point.

It really is. Even if they themselves won't bring back their old XServe OS variant, I'd really appreciate it if they at least partnered with a Linux or BSD (good callout, ryao) dev to bring a server OS to the hardware stack. The consumer OS, while still better (to my subjective tastes) than Windows, is increasingly hampered by bloat and cruft that make it untenable for production server workloads, at least to my subjective standards.

A server OS that just treats the underlying hardware like a hypervisor would, making the various components attachable or shareable to VMs and Containers on top, would make these things incredibly valuable in smaller datacenters or Edge use cases. Having an on-prem NPU with that much RAM would be a godsend for local AI acceleration among a shared userbase on the LAN.

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

#229

Whoa. M3 instead of M4. I wonder if this was basically binning, but I thought that I had read somewhere that the interposer that enabled this for the M1 chips where not available. That Said, 512GB of unified ram with access to the NPU is absolutely a game changer. My guess is that Apple developed this chip for their internal AI efforts, and are now at the point where they are releasing it publicly for others to use.…

> This hardware is really being held back by the operating system at this point. Please elucidate.

To expatiate with perspicuity:

The Apple ecosystem is a walled garden.

Re: Apple M3 Ultra

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I've been buying and using MBP for 6 or 7 years now, and just assumed I could run Linux on one if I wanted to. I just spent a couple of days trying to get a 2018 MBP working with Linux and found out [edit to clarify] that my other ARM MBP basically won't work. I just want a break from MacOS, I'll be buying a Thinkpad and will probably never come back. This isn't my moaning, I understand it's their market, but if thei…

A 2018 MacBook would be an intel x86 chip. It’s incredibly easy to get Linux running on that machine.

Because of the T2 chip it's actually pretty annoying. Mainline kernels I think are still missing keyboard and trackpad support for those models. Plus a host of other issues.
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