The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…
Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
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#222Shameful day for America where the President and VP two on one berate a visiting leader (guest even) who is fighting for his countries freedom against a totalitarian regime.
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#223That’ll be water for the Russian propaganda. America, what have you chosen. It’s clear you have a Russian insurgent in the White House. They have already started dismantling the government. Next they’ll shake up the military. Every totalitarian regime shakes up the military.
"Next?"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pushes-out-top-us-gen...
Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
#224The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…
Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
#225Shameful day for America where the President and VP two on one berate a visiting leader (guest even) who is fighting for his countries freedom against a totalitarian regime.
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#226Obviously those idiots in the White House are provoking this juvenile confrontation as part of a move toward withdrawing US support from Ukraine.
But why? It's beyond clear that a resurgent Russia is against our interests, but here we have the President debasing himself and his country to suck up with Putin as if Putin was the leader of a superpower.
So it must be a pretty bad reason. I guess we'll eventually find out why, but it may not matter at that point.
How stupid and idiotic.
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#227Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
#228- We want peace. Full stop. No more dead men, women, and children. THAT IS THE GOAL.
CONTEXT:
- Trump armed Ukraine to the teeth in first term, providing lethal aid which previous presidents did not do. He wanted to deter Putin while not also escalating.
- Adding Ukraine to NATO is a line in the sand for Putin. How would we feel the US feel if China and Mexico entered a defense agreement and placed Chinese missiles on the US border? Adding Ukraine to Nato is an ESCALATION.
- Biden admin sent Kamala over to Europe in '21 saying it was time to add Ukraine to NATO. Good job guys.
- Biden then said his response to a potential Putin invasion would "depend on whether it was a major or minor invasion" (I'm generalizing).
- Biden then flopped Afghanistan. US weak.
- There were rumblings of a peace deal in early 2022, but Boris Johnson and European delegation shot it down.
Europe and Ukraine are relying on the US to bankroll/supply a war with one of the world's greatest nuclear threat. THIS ISN'T A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. The lines have been more or less drawn. If we continue this war, we either:
(a) at a minimum, drive Russia into closer alliance with China while killing many more Russians and Ukrainians
(b) provoke a hot war amongst many nations, leading to the death of millions
OR
We get a peace deal done with the general boundaries that have been consistent for nearly two years: Russia provinces going to Russia, a DMZ established, and Ukraine sadly smaller.
This isn't simply "we must support the Good Guys and defeat the Bad Guys". Right now Trump wants PEACE and feels as if Zelensky demands to call the shots. He can't call the shots. He is not the US.
Addendum:
Re mineral rights and the accusation "Trump just wants the $$$", you do realize that placing a large US business interest in Ukraine (as opposed to backdoor dealings) is actually a way of strengthening the US's commitment and investment in Ukraine, right?
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#229Re: Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting
#230The American government has been compromised by Russia. It no longer represents American interests, but Russian interests. Whether the senior powers in America are compromised, complicit, or opportunist, it doesn't matter. America is being damaged. Russian interests are being prioritized over American interests. Our military is too powerful for direct conflict, so alternative conflict against our political structure…
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
-- Henry Kissinger
It's too simplistic (and IMHO not accurate) to say the American government has been commpromised by Russia. Go back a few years and you'll see American politicians from all parties saying how great it was that they've crippled the Russian military without a single American soldier being deployed and killed.It's more accurate to say that foreign policy, which is bipartisan, is to loot the world. Domestic poicy is to divide up the spoils.
The US never took a moral stand for Ukraine. It was always through the lens of American imperial interests. This is no different.