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This literally makes no sense. What does it mean to have a high asymmetry but somehow, "no amount" can make a dent in the problem. The claim in the OP is about engineering effort, not about "it's hard to get people to want your product" or whatever.

So what exactly are you trying to say here?

"You would have to be naive to think that google would just open their arms and kumbaya with microsoft to do the "hard work""

I mean, i was there for Google, with plenty of others, and I know what we were thinking, because I was partially in charge of it? Please, tell me more about what I and others were thinking. Were you there? Do you have any data or evidence?

The naive thing is usually thinking people on the internet with no actual knowledge won't make up a history that suits their narrative.

"No. The end goal is to make money. Sometime it requires helping user, other time a bunch of anti competitive ( forcing android oem to prevent meaningful forks)and anti consumer (like playing hard ball with ad blockers) BS."

Again, please produce evidence rather than conjecture. What actual first hand evidence are you presenting here? (IE not opinions of random internet people who were not involved in any way). There actually are some folks involved who have this view, but my experience is they are far outnumbered by those actually trying to help. But you haven't even gone so far as to provide evidence from one of these folks who does disagree with my view!

"So much wrong with this. And is just a strawman. OP is not saying that it's not hard problem solving. The point is the solution achieved is self serving and sucks for the rest of us."

If so much is wrong with it, describe it. You've also now switched arguments from "no amount of engineering will make a dent" to "i don't like the solution they engineered". Which is it, exactly?

"Yeah no. History disagree with you"

Then, again, it should be really easy to produce evidence of this from folks involved. Where is it?

But that's not actually the argument really being made here with any evidence. That would be a reasonable argument, but it's also always true - we are human, not robots, that's how humans work in any group setting. So it's not particularly interesting or particular to this that social and other things matter as much as pure technical merit or hard work.

But again, this isn't the argument the post makes. Instead, in this case, the argument being made is (basically) "Nobody in those rooms is operating in good faith, they are instead deliberately trying to make it harder for newcomers. They also only have any power at all through illegitimate means in the first place".

I do not believe any of this to be true.