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Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Nice UI, very light and simple, seems to be running fast even on my netbook. I guess I will start to use my 15 year old hotmail account again, good to finally have an alternative to Gmail. Only one thing: Microsoft, I know its really chiq and en-vogue nowadays to have some element with position:fixed; on every page, but please: don't! There is no reason whatsoever why I would want to see all the time the titlebar. I…

I use both gmail and hotmail (or outlook.com now) and the titlebar in this case is the same as in gmail: it has the user-name of the person logged in, the "options" (gear icon), the send/reply/delete/new-email buttons. And actually with gmail the interface has the google logo and search input above the title-bar taking up an extra ~100 pixels.

One important reason why I am glad about Outlook.com as an alternative.

Not only is it getting harder and harder to read emails on a Netbook screen (there is almost no space left for the actual message), it is also getting painfully slow.

Gmail now loads and runs to much Javascript that my poor little Netbook can't even scroll smoothly anymore.

After playing with Outlook.com a bit, it seems much faster than Gmail.

Since Marissa Mayer is now at Yahoo, I expect a much improved Y!Mail soon.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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I would hope that if they want to sway people back they'd do what gmail did to the garbage web apps around the time of its launch. I don't see anything groundbreaking in the video/screenshots. Do is it offer anything unique?

The UIs on this and even iCloud's webmail are so much better than Gmail's that I consider them functional improvements. They're clearly designed to make the most common use cases ergonomic and let you focus on the task at hand. Unlike Gmail, whose loud interface has no delineation between functional areas and bombards me with seldom used options.

When e-mail is one tab among 12 in my browser, I find this kind of focus and simplicity to be a real advantage.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #51

Nice UI, very light and simple, seems to be running fast even on my netbook. I guess I will start to use my 15 year old hotmail account again, good to finally have an alternative to Gmail. Only one thing: Microsoft, I know its really chiq and en-vogue nowadays to have some element with position:fixed; on every page, but please: don't! There is no reason whatsoever why I would want to see all the time the titlebar. I…

It's not about remind you that you're on Outlook.com. It's about the tools it gives you. i.e. "toolbar".

Depending on where you are, the options on the toolbar change, and are really helpful.

I really like it.

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HN: Is this a feature or a bug?

My live id is a Gmail address. Went to Outlook.com, wanted to register but the form said 'login if you have a live id'. Did that, ended up on a very ugly hotmail-kind-of site.

Hrmpf. Went back to Outlook.com, but logged in now: The web interface lets me compose and send mails as me@gmail?

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Could you point me toward that multiple instance tweak? That's something I've wanted for a while.

Here are my notes on that (I'm running Vista 64 Ultimate): RUNNING MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF OUTLOOK Download and install "ExtraOutlook.exe" from: http://www.hammerofgod.com/download/ExtraOutlook.zip Copy the executable to the folder where outlook lives. In the current case that means: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office12\ Create a profile for each separate instance of Outlook we want to run: To create and ma…

Thanks for posting your notes. I'm running into a "Function not found in Import Table" error when I try that with Outlook 2010. Have you ever run into that?

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail allows you to sign in to multiple accounts at the same time (in different tabs). I have two pinned tabs always open in Chrome - one for personal, one for business emails. Works incredibly well for me.

Except this only recently was made to work again (a year?) and it doesn't work across all Google properties. I agree that the new effort from Microsoft had no chance against the old gmail, against the current gmail the jury is still out :-). What I find interesting is that its even a product. I know that sounds weird but bear with me for a moment. Mail (the service) has changed hardly at all for a decade. You send an…

I think gmail is as close to a "mail as a service" as you can get. You can get your own domain pretty easily, and yes Google charges you for it.

You can hook up plenty of 3rd party native clients to it - if you want, you never have to use the web interface at all (9x% of my gmail usage is from Mac and iOS native clients).

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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HN: Is this a feature or a bug? My live id is a Gmail address. Went to Outlook.com, wanted to register but the form said 'login if you have a live id'. Did that, ended up on a very ugly hotmail-kind-of site. Hrmpf. Went back to Outlook.com, but logged in now: The web interface lets me compose and send mails as me@gmail?

Confirmed. My Live account that I use for xbox live is my gmail account. I was pleasantly surprised that I was able to login to outlook.com with my gmail address. However I am concerned about the ability to send email from outlook.com that is sent as the name of another provider.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

This is what Microsoft is saying now -

Putting you in control. Email is private and confidential, and most folks we've talked to want to keep it that way. So we keep your personal email personal. We don't scan your email content or attachments and sell this information to advertisers or any other company, and we don't show ads in personal conversations. We let you decide whether to connect your account to social networks, and which ones you want to use - and you're in control of who you friend or follow. And, if you're a power user who wants to really fine tune your inbox, we let you create your own categories, folders, and rules to tailor Outlook.com to your preferences.

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