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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by sshine »

musikele wrote: post #165

Let's remove Musk from the equation, because you can like or (most probably) hate him, but I own a Tesla and I have the opposite experience. Everything worked out of the box. Just one piece of hardware started to fail (the charger plug making some noise) and they changed it in warranty. First: has the author tried a tesla before buying one? I'd never buy a car without trying it. Because comparing it to a Clio just be…

Same experience with my 2022 Model Y:

Have yet not had a single problem for two years.

Surely the problem lies in a high variance in the production of later models.

Like when you visit a stellar restaurant and come back years later to realize the magic sauce was a chef who left.

Also, yes, it sounds risky to buy a car without being able to drive it back when it immediately breaks. I can also see myself as a victim of that because of experiences like yours and mine: Teslas are the most purchased EVs, they're everywhere, surely you'd know if their reputation is tarnished for other reasons than the mascot being unpopular.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by ps »

I have owned Model S since 2018, now driving my second one (Raven). The first one was just poor manufacturing Tesla has been known for forever. Second one is however the disaster. So many sounds while turning the steering wheel, driving on tiny slopes, braking etc. forced me to convince the service center to replace the suspension, arms & half-shafts (all under warranty). None of these steps helped, service center proposed to try another service center "where there may have more experience" and called the squeaking the feature of the vehicle. I visited 3rd party garage, got more information about possible sources and concluded it is probably impossible to fix it. So here I am, driving the $80k car that squeaks like 30 years old rusty Ford, attracting attention at the parking lots. Won't be buying a next one for sure.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by andrelaszlo »

teekert wrote: post #116
Zanfa wrote: post #60

Putting aside the ethics of buying a Tesla in 2024, who buys a car brand legendary for unreliability and ridiculously long service times in a country that doesn't even have a dealership? Some people like to live dangerously.

I think it is unnecessary to say "Putting aside the ethics". This is a very personal thing, for you it would (presumably) take putting aside your ethics, and maybe it would for me. But that is not the case for everyone. I for one don't like it when people online, with every statement, signal their personal ethics. It gets to be very tiresome and degrades my HN experience. Actually it is degrading my whole internet br…

I think the downvotes is for essentially doing what you are criticizing when you point out a certain thing someone said that hurt you.

They were making an effort to stay on topic (reliability issues with Tesla's cars). You're making it about divisiveness.

The ethical considerations around Tesla are pretty bizarre. It gets political, since the owner of the company is so deeply associated with both the cars and politics.

I don't think your comment comes from a bad place, I understand the fatigue and the desparation. However, when someone in power does something "divisive" (quotes, because its the understatement of the decade - you can probably come up with examples) and people who mention it, even by not mentioning it, are told to be quiet because they are being divisive - it can come off as trying to silence people and ensure no criticizism can be raised.

Again, I don't think that was your intention but it has that effect either way.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by rsynnott »

Andys wrote: post #85
buyucu wrote: post #6

if you are trying to but a tesla, then you have only yourself to blame when something goes wrong. tesla is (in)famous for customer service and quality issues.

But its a weird distribution, because of owners who never have a single problem.

I mean, all that proves is that there exist _instances of the car_ which are not defective. Like, it would be extremely odd if every single unit was notably defective.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by oblio »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #20

I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…

> It then gave me 2 notifications about some assist features not working and rear warning not working or something, idk.

It told you the blind spot indicator isn't working anymore which is relevant safety information.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by voidUpdate »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #20

I had similar experiences with a modern Volvo. (XC40 T8 EV). Modern cars seem to be absolutely terrible. It's like all those Single Page Applications on the web that are just downgrades over the classic Server-Side Rendered apps. Sure, you have more features, but at what cost? Reliability. I think the last generations of cars before the touch buttons and screens were the last "okay" generation. Somewhere in 2010s, al…

If I was to buy a car these days (which I'm not, I don't have nearly enough money for that), I'd want something with as little "computer" in it as possible. Just a box with 4 wheels and an engine, or maybe a battery and a motor, maybe a heater for when it gets a bit cold, and I'll throw a bluetooth speaker in the back seat if I need something to listen to

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by ddalex »

freetanga wrote: post #153
decimalenough wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it is objectively not "horrible" to drive, the Model Y was the world's best selling car two years in a row for a reason. But OP has clearly received a lemon, and Tesla service has a well-deserved reputation for being extremely slow when they need to fix any non-trivial issue. And in the OP's case buying the car in a country with no official Tesla presence is making things even worse.

When your car is half SaaS, the experience of two years ago has little to say on the current experience.

Nothing fixes a badly designed chassis or poor geometry, no matter how much Tesla wants to pretend that they can fix the handling in software

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by karel-3d »

To sum the article:

* they sold him a broken car in December, that keeps losing battery 8% per day even when standing out doing nothing

* they told him they could repair it, at the end of February, because of high demand for the part

* he cannot now go to holiday peacefully and has to charge it nonstop

* he doesn't consider the car safe to drive it all the way to the service center, because it basically doesn't work

* the customer support is ignoring him

Sounds like a nightmare alright. If I was him I would start getting lawyers/customer rights groups involved.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by nhinck3 »

teekert wrote: post #209
chikere232 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are lots of sort of tuned out but generally nice people who might shy away from buying a tesla if the perfidity of Musk is mentioned whenever tesla is discussed. The people who like Musk are probably beyond help

It always helps indeed, to change people's minds when you tell them "You are probably beyond help" or "You should feel bad if you do X". It's been great for my relationships! In fact, I'm gonna write a blog post now: "Things I wish someone would have told me before I went online and started sharing my opinions"! It's gonna be a guaranteed front-pager!

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by rsynnott »

maelito wrote: post #53

Checkout the new Renault 5, or "R5" review. It's a legendary French car revisited.

Oh, wow. My parents had one of those (or very similar) when I was a kid (the first gen one). Kind of disappointing (though honestly sensible) that they went for normal door handles instead of the weird pushbutton thing from the original, for the electric one.
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