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Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by JohnBooty »

RajT88 wrote: post #25
addicted wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FBI. The FBI was out for MLK. In his first term Trump liked the FBI so he allowed them to redact the JFK files he was legally supposed to release to the public. But in 2025 they’re his bogey man so releasing it so Kash Patel has an even easier time remolding it in his image makes a lot of sense.

Yeah, I mean. Given what is known about the FBI and MLK how much worse could it get? Fun fact: there is a statue of MLK at the FBI academy in Quantico.

I don't think the majority of the public is aware of the extremely devious stuff the FBI has done w.r.t. civil rights leaders etc.

Even if nothing substantively new is released it gives him a chance to rant about the FBI as part of his mission to seize power and discredit the "deep state" while cosplaying as a supporter of truth, justice, people of color, etc.

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Post by petee »

ttyprintk wrote: post #208
petee wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowed to talk about classified material? Doubtful

Judge for yourself: > the correct figure now is about 3,600 documents in the collection of 320,000 documents still contain redactions. That might mean we might have most of the document except for a sentence, a word, a name. In other cases, you know, several pages or, you know, I don't think there's any document that's withheld in its entirety. But, you know, it's still a lot of records. The bulk of those are CIA rec…

Sounds like that person knows very little and wants to sound important for a podcast. Security clearances are taken very seriously, you can't just spitball about classified things you've seen.

My dad had classified knowledge from his time in the air force, and he wouldn't even discuss the category of information let alone give an overview of the contents, 50 years onward

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Post by 4ggr0 »

volleyball wrote: post #154
dh2022 wrote: post #95

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What you wrote is very interesting (and intriguing). What readings would you recommend?

Not the person you asked but what (s)he described sounds like "One nation under black mail" by Whitney Web. Actually worried whether the author would get Epsteined herself.

> (s)he

'they' works wonders in such cases :) (hope this is not seen as snarky or whatever)

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by trunnell »

I thought the JFK assassination was tragic but not really relevant/interesting until I listened to this podcast by journalist Soledad O’Brien:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-killed-jfk/id17146...

There’s actually a mountain of evidence pointing to a horrifying conclusion.

It’s not easy to summarize, and anyhow I don’t want to give spoilers here.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Post by bathtub365 »

trunnell wrote: post #224

I thought the JFK assassination was tragic but not really relevant/interesting until I listened to this podcast by journalist Soledad O’Brien: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-killed-jfk/id17146... There’s actually a mountain of evidence pointing to a horrifying conclusion. It’s not easy to summarize, and anyhow I don’t want to give spoilers here.

What’s the conclusion?

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Post by reverendsteveii »

trunnell wrote: post #224

I thought the JFK assassination was tragic but not really relevant/interesting until I listened to this podcast by journalist Soledad O’Brien: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-killed-jfk/id17146... There’s actually a mountain of evidence pointing to a horrifying conclusion. It’s not easy to summarize, and anyhow I don’t want to give spoilers here.

I once listened to a Pittsburgh-area local legend coroner named Cyril Wecht (RIP to one of the best public speakers it was ever my pleasure to see) go on about this for a half hour and the number of things that had to happen for the first time in human history in order for the warren report to not be entirely bullshit is staggering. A trained rifleman passing on an approaching shot in favor of a shot where the target is moving perpendicularly, hitting the shot anyway, then the target snapping back against the direction of applied force and developing an entrance wound bigger than the exit wound?

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Post by digitallis42 »

bathtub365 wrote: post #225
trunnell wrote: post #224

I thought the JFK assassination was tragic but not really relevant/interesting until I listened to this podcast by journalist Soledad O’Brien: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-killed-jfk/id17146... There’s actually a mountain of evidence pointing to a horrifying conclusion. It’s not easy to summarize, and anyhow I don’t want to give spoilers here.

What’s the conclusion?

That the comment bots are getting better at phrasing things as clickbait?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

skissane wrote: post #152
trimethylpurine wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the FBI did it off the record then technically it's not the FBI it's a rogue actor or cell that happens to work for the government If a bus driver for a federal prison snapped and shot him we could say the same thing. Where is the line between agency and private party if it's not drawn on the record?

I think there’s a big difference between “random FBI field agent decides to murder someone” and “FBI director asks his deputy to murder someone”. Attributing the murder to the FBI as an institution makes a lot more sense in the second case than in the first

Personally, I agree with you. We have semantic problem.

*If the director asked, and we know that he asked, then it is on the record.

*If the director asked off the record, then it's called classified.

*If there is a conviction then it was a rogue cell.

The agency is clear in all cases whether we like it or not. Same as a corporation, but worse.

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Post by trunnell »

bathtub365 wrote: post #225
trunnell wrote: post #224

I thought the JFK assassination was tragic but not really relevant/interesting until I listened to this podcast by journalist Soledad O’Brien: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-killed-jfk/id17146... There’s actually a mountain of evidence pointing to a horrifying conclusion. It’s not easy to summarize, and anyhow I don’t want to give spoilers here.

What’s the conclusion?

Don’t want to spoil it for you
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