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You need to demonstrate a causal connection. How do you not know that? Where did you go to high school?
While you conduct those studies the adults in the room will go get things done
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I'm arguing that DEI/"biographical" standards are indicative of greater rot. The one and only priority of the FAA should be the safe and efficient operation of our nation's airways. That we would sacrifice any amount of safety/efficiency in pursuit of other goals is a major problem. I also apply this thinking to other fed gov programs (eg NSF, DoD, etc) Edit: in other words, how many lives should we sacrifice in our…
Encouraging talented people from underrepresented or marginalised groups to apply, for example through DEI programs, will help find the best candidates to ensure safe and efficient operation.
What you’re describing is the motte of DEI. And that’s great. But it often turns into the bailey of “racial preferences or quotas.” Which is illegal.
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Another (small) plane crashed in Philadelphia today. That's two in a couple days.
Yes, non-commercial planes crash far, FAR more often than commercial flights, at the tune of about 200-300 fatalities a year, you can play with the data a bit here: https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics... The fact that the incident you talk about was reported at all was exceptional.
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Not necessarily. In the reparations lawsuit, there are only 1000ish individuals. Assuming all of them would have qualified, you are talking about around 2% of the current workforce. Not nothing. But the last admin grew the workforce by more numbers. And did not have this policy. So, by all means, chase reparations. But don't think you've stumbled on the reason, either.
I think there are only about 10,000 active controllers (not in training)
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Because air travel is ridiculously safe. The incident with the helicopter and the plane is making the rounds precisely because of how insanely improbable it is, and even then from what we know, chances are the error was in the helicopter, not the tower.
Please stop with the unnecessary platitudes. The GP is specifically asking about future safety in light of what's being discussed in the article. Continually harping on the past safety record as if it is an accurate forecast is a disservice to the parent's question. Granted, the question was hyperbolic, but you can address that hyperbole directly rather than just giving a canned generic response.
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The fact that it was done in the first place is widely known and would discourage many from even considering a career in ATC. The negative effects are still in play. The same for military recruitment.
Have you asked any? I mean has anyone literally told you this? Because people here in the field are saying what discourages others from applying is low pay and high stress. Yet you seem to think it’s an outdated hiring practice, so who told you that?
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Have you asked any? I mean has anyone literally told you this? Because people here in the field are saying what discourages others from applying is low pay and high stress. Yet you seem to think it’s an outdated hiring practice, so who told you that?
No, not directly. but I've been reading news items about how military recruitment is falling well short of goals, and how traditional pools from which recruits are drawn are now ignoring recruitment offers.
Maybe that has something to do with why recruitment is down. But no, you're probably right it's DEI.
Feel like I'm having deja vu in away. Didn't this exact problem blow up a couple years ago?
A couple years ago the transportation secretary tried to get funding to hire 2,000 more controllers. Congress said no https://thehill.com/regulation/transportation/4617992-buttig...
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ATC here (opinions are my own, not of the FAA, etc) Pay is a huge part of it, so it really is that simple. Qualified people are choosing not to even apply anymore because the pay is no longer competitive with other high-paying jobs that don't destroy you mentally and physically, or have a complicated hiring process like ATC does.
I would presume a lot of younger people are probably disqualified for ATC by current or past stimulant use. Whereas a field like tech almost requires stimulant use now. Maybe good peak pay, but no job security there anymore though.
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ATC-wannabe here. I can't be ATC anymore because I'm too old. I can't even start. That age limit needs to change. And yes, more pay.
The hiring age limit is due to the mandatory retirement age (56).