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TikTok goes dark in the US

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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#221
What's to stop TikTok from serving their website from non-US servers to all comers? Using it in a browser is not as smooth as an app, but there must be apps out there that are nothing but a WebView to URLs on a single domain (like you can do in Mac Safari with File... Add to Dock...). Submitting / watching videos wouldn't be that different.

It seems to me the only recourse the US would have is building The Great Firewall of America.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#222
post #141

Apple and Google created individual APIs to serve up phone number, contacts, exact location, device model, time zone, clipboard data, photos, files, and cookies to 10 million different random app developers to harvest to their heart's delight. US government passes law against just one of them for using said APIs. Are they going to fix the root of the issue, or just play whack-a-mole forever?

You know the answer.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#223

China and USA are both same in a way so I dnt give a f..k which side wins. World will be a little better place with one less bully

Seeing someone create a whole new account just to say this take amuses me, as if it was a knee-jerk reaction but with calculated thought on the optics of saying it.

probably a wumao

they get paid to post pro-China messages

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#224
I think a lot of people on here never spent much time on TikTok and it shows. It wasn't just for young people and it wasn't all brain rot.

There were vibrant communities, subcultures.

Real issues were aired there. Real people connected. From the early days of Covid it provided a window into a broader world.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#225

What's to stop TikTok from serving their website from non-US servers to all comers? Using it in a browser is not as smooth as an app, but there must be apps out there that are nothing but a WebView to URLs on a single domain (like you can do in Mac Safari with File... Add to Dock...). Submitting / watching videos wouldn't be that different. It seems to me the only recourse the US would have is building The Great Fire…

As far as I understand it, they wouldn't be able to advertise with US companies in the US so it's a lot of cost for no benefit. Unless they're hosting all that bandwidth for an altruistic reason..

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #148

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

None of those arguments are the salient one, which is that a geopolitical adversary has control over a major influence vector on US public opinion. They could simply have divested.

its a horrible crutch that suggests america is already dead and gone.

america and americans should be able to view any media and still come to the best conclusions. banning media is a lack of trust in americans ability to formulate opinions. what the point in having media and democracy if you dont think people can make good decisions based on it?

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#228

I'm really curious and somewhat worried about what the economic effect of this is going to be. There are a number of legitimate small businesses that saw a lot of, if not all of, their business and customer base through TikTok. Business that just will not be able to make the move to somewhere else. I personally know musicians, actors, and artists that got a lot of work through TikTok. People who actually create thing…

I know think of the poor starving only fans entrepreneurs - i mean small business owners. How ever will they pay for college now?

Why do you bash people who have found a way to make an income? We all know tech ain't hiring after everyone was told to 'learn to code'. What else is there to lead a middle class lifestyle?

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #213

was not really on TikTok but a bleak day for anyone that believes in the free speech ideals the US was founded on

Aww yes I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who wrote about the need to form a more perfect union that allows hostile foreign governments to run a direct unfettered pipeline into the minds of its youth with zero oversight.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

#230
post #148

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

None of those arguments are the salient one, which is that a geopolitical adversary has control over a major influence vector on US public opinion. They could simply have divested.

"...there is now a widespread tendency to argue that one can only defend democracy by totalitarian methods. If one loves democracy, the argument runs, one must crush its enemies by no matter what means. And who are its enemies? It always appears that they are not only those who attack it openly and consciously, but those who ‘objectively’ endanger it by spreading mistaken doctrines. In other words, defending democracy involves destroying all independence of thought."

Geroge Orwell - Proposed preface to Animal Farm, first published in the Times Literary Supplement on 15 September 1972

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel...

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