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Could have a self hosted git or ci/cd pipeline for deployments and code access during outages. They don't need to be up constantly, just need to be able to keep a backup of the code somewhere and have some way to run critical deployment scripts if github actions are unavailable
What self hosted CI do you recommend?
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people could not be more clear that their preference is for reliable and easy-to-use centralized services maintained by professionals, and not decentralized systems that require a great deal of user expertise
There is not actually a need to choose between a single centralised monopoly and going full-on techno-prepper and running all your own services in your garage as an individual . We could have intermediate points, such as having services run by professionals but based on portable open standards.
Portable VCS is simple. Portable anything with the integration everyone expects (issues connects to source which connects to builds which connects to releases) is hard. Git being so open and portable means it isn't a moat.
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It's this type of negativity ruining the internet. Nothing thoughtful to say, nothing to add, and hoping for failure. I hope everything is okay over there...
They are advocating for decentralized tools. That’s actionable and hoping to prevent failure.
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I believe he found the open source tools being used (CVS?) weren't good enough, and he started using a commercial closed source tool called "bitkeeper", which rankled the ire of the FOSS community who wanted to eat their own dogfood. So Torvald's opted to "clone" the features of bitkeeper into an open source version he named 'git'. That's the story I heard, no idea if it's true.
They were using BitKeeper for years but git was created when BitKeeper pulled the rug licensing-wise. Source: A Git Story from https://blog.brachiosoft.com/en/posts/git/
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could have a self hosted git or ci/cd pipeline for deployments and code access during outages. They don't need to be up constantly, just need to be able to keep a backup of the code somewhere and have some way to run critical deployment scripts if github actions are unavailable
What self hosted CI do you recommend?
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#226Damn you azure! Or is Microsoft not even running their precious GitHub in azure
There's innumerable causes of this kind of failure that aren't rooted cloud service provider shenanigans
(Admittedly the duration of the outage does "feel" like an infra outage)
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#227I guess it's a good time as any to setup a backup or check out alternatives that could mirror or standalone. Gitlab, Gitea, any others worth checking out?
For example, I doubt you would be able to easily merge any pull-requests or use the same CI/CD code for the same services without hacky solutions.
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#228Not sure if I am just noticing GitHub's issues more often as I am using their tools pretty much every day but their availability is kinda not great. Be it Actions failing or something "not core business" (read: git operations) but I can't remember a month in the past where I was not annoyed by any outage on GitHub
The whole product feels like it’s getting g progressively jankier. The front-end is glacial nowadays and frequently has issues actually loading the page, actions frequently has some kind of panic attack and breaks or just grinds along a glacial speeds. The UX has gotten worse (why no merge-queue button?).
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Basically you rent space and machines in datacenters that are geographically distributed and designed to resist natural disasters
That's exactly what Github does already. I wouldn't bet on my own org being better at hosting github than github.
Depending on your size your requirements may be much lower and easier to manage. Github has to be all things to all people and that comes with complexity and that can make things more fragile.
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#230Not sure if I am just noticing GitHub's issues more often as I am using their tools pretty much every day but their availability is kinda not great. Be it Actions failing or something "not core business" (read: git operations) but I can't remember a month in the past where I was not annoyed by any outage on GitHub
The whole product feels like it’s getting g progressively jankier. The front-end is glacial nowadays and frequently has issues actually loading the page, actions frequently has some kind of panic attack and breaks or just grinds along a glacial speeds. The UX has gotten worse (why no merge-queue button?).