http://suchir.net/fair_use.html When does generative AI qualify for fair use? by Suchir Balaji
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OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
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#222Given the outcomes of the Facebook mood experiments and how I've seen people put together very targeted ads, I'm wondering whether it's possible to induce someone (who's already under a lot of pressure) to commit suicide simply via a targeted information campaign. I'm speculating less on what happened here, and more on the general "yes that would be possible" situation. How would one protect themselves from something…
On Reddit there’s this thing about suicide prevention. Essentially, if someone thinks that you are suicidal, they can make reddit send you a very official looking “don’t do it” message. I found that people are using it to abuse those they hate. I’ve received the message a few times when I had an argument with someone. Apparently it's a thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/questions/comments/1bp1k9h/why_do_i... There’s som…
Wow, that's the first time I'm hearing about that tactic.
And it's dawning on me how egregious that is because it could be inoculating you against the very messages meant to dissuade you. Though I'm unsure how effective those messages were to begin with.
Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
#223Given the outcomes of the Facebook mood experiments and how I've seen people put together very targeted ads, I'm wondering whether it's possible to induce someone (who's already under a lot of pressure) to commit suicide simply via a targeted information campaign. I'm speculating less on what happened here, and more on the general "yes that would be possible" situation. How would one protect themselves from something…
In theory, but not without including a larger target group as your audience. Back in the day an audience on Facebook needed a size of at least 20, but I'm unsure what the limit is now.
Your ads would still need to be reviewed and would likely not pass the filters if they straight up encourage self harm.
Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
#224RIP. Suchir was a man of principles, he probably had to give up his OpenAI options as a result of his stance - OpenAI is reported to have a very restrictive offboarding agreements [1]
" It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, from criticizing their former employer. Even acknowledging that the NDA exists is a violation of it.
If a departing employee declines to sign the document, or if they violate it, they can lose all vested equity they earned during their time at the company, which is likely worth millions of dollars."
[1] https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/5/17/24158478/openai...
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
On Reddit there’s this thing about suicide prevention. Essentially, if someone thinks that you are suicidal, they can make reddit send you a very official looking “don’t do it” message. I found that people are using it to abuse those they hate. I’ve received the message a few times when I had an argument with someone. Apparently it's a thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/questions/comments/1bp1k9h/why_do_i... There’s som…
Wow, that's the first time I'm hearing about that tactic. And it's dawning on me how egregious that is because it could be inoculating you against the very messages meant to dissuade you. Though I'm unsure how effective those messages were to begin with.
Yeah, it's making you look back at yourself. Like when someone tells you that you look tired or sick or something like that, and you are actually not but you still need to check it up because they might have a point. Then more often than not you start feeling that way. It's suggestive.
Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
#226There are some pretty callous comments on this thread. This is really sad. Suchir was just 26, and graduated from Berkeley 3 years ago. Here’s his personal site: https://suchir.net/ . I think he was pretty brave for standing up against what is generally perceived as an injustice being done by one of the biggest companies in the world, just a few years out of college. I’m not sure how many people in his position would…
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#227Given the outcomes of the Facebook mood experiments and how I've seen people put together very targeted ads, I'm wondering whether it's possible to induce someone (who's already under a lot of pressure) to commit suicide simply via a targeted information campaign. I'm speculating less on what happened here, and more on the general "yes that would be possible" situation. How would one protect themselves from something…
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#228"No evidence of foul play." What about the evidence that he's only 26 and has a successful career in the booming Ai industry? He doesn't seem a likely candidate for suicide. Fair use hasn't been tested in court. He has documents that show OpenAI's intention and communications about the legal framework for it. He was directly involved in web scraping and openly discussing the legal perspectives with his superiors. Tha…
> He doesn't seem a likely candidate for suicide.
He might have been under pressure from attention he got from the press for whistle blowing. He might have worried about career damage. 26 and working on a web scraper for a high-profile company is great, but it's nothing special. I'm not sure of his immigration status, but he could also be dealing with visa issues.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an applied AI developer and CTO at a law firm, and we discuss the fair use argument quite a bit. It grey enough that whom ever has more financial revenues to continue their case will win. Such is the law and legal industry in the USA.
what twigs me about the argument against fair use (whereby AI ostensibly "replicates" the content competitively against the original) is that it assumes a model trained on journalism produces journalism or is designed to produce it. the argument against that stance would be easy to make.
It has become ludicrously clear in the past decade that many of the competitors to journalism are very much not journalism.
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> It's very naive to believe in 'European press'. To get the idea check Ukrainian war coverage. What you'll see first is how single sided it is. This is such a wild take from my POV, a person in the EU. Have you considered the possibility that the nearest imperialist power beginning to violently invade Europe again is likely to trigger a common reaction? This is one of those rare cases in modern history where there i…
I can explain a bit. Russians living in Empire of Evil can see all internet including US and EU news. At the same time 'Putin propaganda' channels are blocked in EU. In EU only one side is available. This creates an information bubble, as intended. Which is a basic crowd control technique used to drive public opinion. In this case to support the war. The result is obvious, EU polls show much stronger support than the…
>In this case to support the war.
while all of you Putin supporters are such a peace loving people, right?