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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by vikingerik »

SoftTalker wrote: post #115
legitster wrote: post #3

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

What makes sense to me is the top 3 cars: Tesla - autopilot that really isn't, gets fooled in many situations, driver lulled into not paying attention, can't react quickly enough when the computer bails, and ends up driving into a bridge abutment at 75mph. Kia - cheap cars built to minimum safety standards driven by young people who aren't very experienced drivers. Buick - cars driven by geriatrics whose declines in…

I'd also venture that the profile of Tesla drivers is also a factor along with those other two brands. I'd be pretty sure that Tesla owners collectively drive more aggressively than the average car on the road. Teslas aren't being driven by soccer moms and careful grandmas.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by namaria »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

It sucks for everyone. What you want us to do? Pretend it ain't so?

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by mauvehaus »

CarVac wrote: post #196
technothrasher wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The top most model of the Model Y is as fast in a straight line as the lowest base model 911, and the handling isn't even close to the same. Saying the Model Y has the performance of the 911 is not really an accurate statement.

The straight-line performance is exactly what makes it dangerous.

To be more precise, it's probably the disparity between straight-line performance and cornering performance that gets people in real trouble.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by stetrain »

weaksauce wrote: post #140
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #130

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They have already announced what they are going to do, with the pro-Trump side saying he's not serious or will mellow out the plan before he takes office, and the anti-Trump side saying he will do exactly what he says he's going to do. Basically a repeat of 2016.

not a repeat of 2016 at all. he's got every lever of the government at his disposal. stacked supreme court, three branches of government on his side. hiring the worst people for every job possible and hiring only for fealty to him. this will be much worse than 2016.

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by bydo »

noncoml wrote: post #199
notyourwork wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

Can you mention one thing that Trump or Musk ever did out of altruism?

Trump set up a whole university!

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Post by interestica »

bilsbie wrote: post #132
bunderbunder wrote: post #50

I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

I was thinking for my next fridge to just buy a plain cheap one and then buy a cheap countertop ice cube maker. Since that’s the thing that always breaks on the fridges. And it adds like $500 to the price.

Dedicated Ice Makers can be quite good and fast at what they do too.

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Post by Spooky23 »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by IAmNotACellist »

floxy wrote: post #218
jdietrich wrote: post #161

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The Tesla Model Y is a two ton SUV with the performance of a Porsche 911. The base RWD model is fast and the Performance model is stupidly fast. I don't think anyone would be particularly surprised to learn that Porsche drivers get into a lot of fatal accidents.

>I don't think anyone would be particularly surprised to learn that Porsche drivers get into a lot of fatal accidents. From the actual study: Fatal Accident Rate Compared to Rank| Model |(per 10^9 Miles) | Overall Average ----+---------------------+--------------------+----------------- 1 | Hyundai Venue | 13.9 | 4.9x 2 | Chevrolet Corvette | 13.6 | 4.8x 3 | Mitsubishi Mirage | 13.6 | 4.8x 4 | Porsche 911 | 13.2 | 4.…

So the Tesla Model Y has a lower fatal accident rate than sports cars, but they report it as Tesla overall having the highest fatal accident rate? Perhaps that's because _all_ the cars they make are stupid fast and heavy, and they don't offer cars where it's far harder to get into those situations?

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Post by Wytwwww »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

> I loathe it

They are planning to appoint a nutjob who has publicly that he admitted cutting off the heads of whale carcasses with a chainsaw and dumping dead bears in the Central Park for "fun". Presumably he is also consuming those rotting animals carcasses that he keeps finding somehow (how else do you get brain worms?) to be the new US health secretary.

Seriously... what else do you need to know?

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Post by namaria »

ithkuil wrote: post #213
zzzeek wrote: post #164

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Or perhaps he just does it for ego and visibility. It's hard to tell which of these two options is more likely. 4d chess or simple billionaire egomania ?

What's 4D chess about saying they'll diminish the government capacity to regulate their business and proceeding to doing so? It doesn't take an evil genius master plan to go about that.
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