Yeah, right. You don't have to use cookie banners if you don't use cookies. Unless you are running ads or profiling users, you can get equivalent data from server logs.
Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
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Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Am I going insane or is the world going insane? You haven't been reading the news lately, have you?
> You haven't been reading the news lately, have you? If you're referring to the US elections, then you might be interested in the fact that not everyone on HN is from US, and not everyone cares.
You think the change of administration in the US isn't going to affect the global economy?
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
It did though? You don't need a banner for actually legitimate use (session Cookie, settings, etc) The things they're calling legitimate use just isn't, which is why they need banners.
The elephant in the room is that almost no one wants to host website without at least some sort of website analytics service, which does not fall under legitimate use. So that's why even a small blog is going to have a cookie banner. There are some analytics companies out there that advertise cookieless analytics, but they are either a) too simple for enterprise or b) a much, much worse privacy and compliance risk.
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#224The whole law should have been forcing sites to not ignore DoNotTrack bworser settings. It's a prime example of the EU being utterly useless because they don't understand the underlying issue and then choose a "solution" that's as much in your face as possible but doesn't change anything about the original problem. It's the whole plastic straw thing in digital form.
And the majority isn't even compliant, without a big disable button, instead hiding it through 10 different dark patterns in the cookie setting, where every misclick leads to accepting the whole array of spyware.
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#225Sometimes when you go for a walk in the country there are stiles or gates to climb over and that is also fine.
I feel like there's some kind of implied belief here that all interactions with the world should be perfectly frictionless which I think may be more of a niche view than is realised?
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#226Laws are best when they are abstract, so that there is no need for frequent updates and they adapt to changing realities. The European "cookie law" does not mandate cookie banners, it mandates informed consent. Companies choose to implement that as a banner.
There is no doubt that the goals set by the law are sensible. It is also not evident that losing time over privacy is so horrible. In fact, when designing a law that enhances consumer rights through informed consent, it is inevitable that this imposes additional time spent on thinking, considering and acting.
It's the whole point, folks! You cannot have an informed case-by-case decision without spending time.
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#227Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#228The whole law should have been forcing sites to not ignore DoNotTrack bworser settings. It's a prime example of the EU being utterly useless because they don't understand the underlying issue and then choose a "solution" that's as much in your face as possible but doesn't change anything about the original problem. It's the whole plastic straw thing in digital form.
Dont blame the system (nonideal but darn good to be in place, compared to literally rest of the world where humans have simply less rights), when its companies failing knowingly basic rules.
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#229Am I literally the only person who this doesn't bother? When I go to a site I click all the xs and buttons until I can see content, without any conscious engagement at all really. Sometimes when you go for a walk in the country there are stiles or gates to climb over and that is also fine. I feel like there's some kind of implied belief here that all interactions with the world should be perfectly frictionless which…
Re: Analysis of economic and productivity losses caused by cookie banners in Europe
#230The whole law should have been forcing sites to not ignore DoNotTrack bworser settings. It's a prime example of the EU being utterly useless because they don't understand the underlying issue and then choose a "solution" that's as much in your face as possible but doesn't change anything about the original problem. It's the whole plastic straw thing in digital form.