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Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by RicoElectrico »

fsflover wrote: post #97
josefresco wrote: post #88

I must be one of those tiny dots just floating in nothingness because my BSKY feed is a dead zone. I've posted, I've replied, I've liked and tried to be an active participant but nothing seems to stick. There's only so many posts I can publish "for myself" before I lose interest. Contrast this with early Twitter where everyone was just super excited, and eager to follow new people. I don't get it, shouldn't a new soc…

Did you try Mastodon? Many have a better experience there.

Not really, posting to mastodon.social is shouting into a void.

Yeah, I know, I'm supposed to register on another instance, but AFAICT there's no way to link the accounts?

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by fsflover »

RicoElectrico wrote: post #221
fsflover wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try Mastodon? Many have a better experience there.

Not really, posting to mastodon.social is shouting into a void. Yeah, I know, I'm supposed to register on another instance, but AFAICT there's no way to link the accounts?

> no way to link the accounts?

What's the goal? Why not just mention other account in bio?

https://fedi.tips/using-multiple-accounts-on-mastodon-and-th...

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by loevborg »

ndiddy wrote: post #163
loevborg wrote: post #98

I'm part of the wave of users who migrated to bluesky last week. I have to say I really like it so far, which surprised me a bit given that I had been underwhelmed by mastodon before. I already spend more time in bluesky than in twitter. For those (like me) who don't know what bluesky is, it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, n…

Given that Bluesky is VC funded, I imagine it'll just be a matter of time until the monetization, ads, and growth hacking start. Enjoy it while you can, I suppose.

Bluesky is a Public Benefit LLC: https://bsky.social/about/blog/2-7-2022-overview

Not sure how that interacts with the fact that the company raised a substantial amount recently https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by Pxtl »

threeseed wrote: post #183
Pxtl wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The loudest complaint I see about threads (lack of hyperlinks) doesn't apply there. Also, Threads seems covered in growth-hacking dark patterns, like the notification/activity screen being flooded with "picked for you". edit: my big worry about BSky is the lack of any coherent monetization plan. This isn't community-funded stuff like Mastodon, it's VC-funded software - there will be a need for revenue at some point a…

> notification/activity screen being flooded with "picked for you" Strange. Have been on Threads since launch and have never seen this. Nor have I seen any growth-hacking dark patterns other than the For You algorithm pushing high-engagement content which they've said they are sorting out. But a lot of this is because Threads has the legacy of being built on Instagram.

It mostly seemed to happen on the web client - I tend to avoid "apps" I'd click the "heart" to check my notifications and it would be just a firehose of "picked for you" streaming in. Also iirc it launched without a chronological feed.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by Pxtl »

panic wrote: post #180
Pxtl wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BlueSky's big killer features that Mastodon fails at: 1) Better (optional) algorithmic feeds. Mastodon's "explore" is weaker than Bluesky's "popular with friends" and "discover" 2) Quote-tweets. 3) Easier onboarding. Mastodon forces you to care about which server you're on and it does matter and migrating later is hard. Meanwhile, BSky has "starter packs" that people can produce for each other with lists of users to…

I don't think either platform is going to "win" in the sense of reaching the size and influence of Twitter, but both will hopefully be more resilient than Twitter was.

Yeah, "resilience" is my big concern. After Facebook and Twitter, I'm mostly concerned about a social network getting compromised by a moneyed political interest. Obviously I'm a liberal so I have my political opinion on the interest here, but the point stands for any alignment - I'd rather see something like Mastodon where people can fund and run their own servers that reflect their own values and interests, and then those servers can federate and defederate as is appropriate.

Basically: governance matters.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by ndiddy »

loevborg wrote: post #223
ndiddy wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that Bluesky is VC funded, I imagine it'll just be a matter of time until the monetization, ads, and growth hacking start. Enjoy it while you can, I suppose.

Bluesky is a Public Benefit LLC: https://bsky.social/about/blog/2-7-2022-overview Not sure how that interacts with the fact that the company raised a substantial amount recently https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a

AFAIK all the "public benefit" aspect does is remove the ability for investors to sue the company for failing to maximize shareholder value. Given sufficient share ownership, it's still possible for VCs to force Bluesky to do whatever they want.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by wink »

bradgessler wrote: post #157
ZacnyLos wrote: post #140

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Verifying your identity on Mastodon is for everyone as well and based on open web standards. https://joinmastodon.org/verification

Problem with Mastodon is you’re forced to associate with the identity of the sever or run your own instance, both of which are very awkward. I’m @bradgessler@ruby.social, but I’m more than a Ruby dev. I could run a Mastadon instance for bradgessler.com, but I have no desire to spend even 3 minutes figuring out how to set all that up. Maintaining my own instance sounds even worse. Bluesky gets the ergonomics of this r…

Maybe think about people who (deliberately or not) have neither chosen their domain(s) to read like their real name or online handle. I agree that yours kinda works, but I wouldn't want to be addressed by @, that's why I use a handle (and have not chosen a matching domain since 1999 or so). And yes, I know you don't have to go that route, and I actually like that it works, I'm just saying it's not a universally good feature. It can be pretty useless.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by stiltzkin »

ndiddy wrote: post #163
loevborg wrote: post #98

I'm part of the wave of users who migrated to bluesky last week. I have to say I really like it so far, which surprised me a bit given that I had been underwhelmed by mastodon before. I already spend more time in bluesky than in twitter. For those (like me) who don't know what bluesky is, it's basically a carbon copy of twitter circa 2015, down to an almost identical UI. Except that there's no monetization, no ads, n…

Given that Bluesky is VC funded, I imagine it'll just be a matter of time until the monetization, ads, and growth hacking start. Enjoy it while you can, I suppose.

Enshitification. 100% guarantee if VC funded.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by stiltzkin »

declan_roberts wrote: post #19

Bluesky to me still seems like a place completely dominated by software type (HN crowd). I know there are obvious exceptions there's no need for you to list them. Threads has extreme normies, bluesky has the nerds, and twitter seems to have just the right mixture of both.

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