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IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by Alifatisk »

mritchie712 wrote: post #167
nhatcher wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I understand the cult part of Excel. And to be honest, Excel is a fantastic tool. I don't think IronCalc can ever replace Excel (a boy can dream though!). But many companies need a spreadsheet of sorts they can embed in their product. Allow me a bit of humour: > Any sufficiently complicated startup or young company contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of 10% of Excel. Mayb…

as a saas founder, I can confirm you are 100% correct about this and we'll be looking at IronCalc for https://www.definite.app/

I have to mention this, when scrolling through the website, as soon as the Lakehouse illustration to the right renders, it degrades the performance on my MBP, the browser even starts to stutter!

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by diegolas »

jeffreyq wrote: post #189
mritchie712 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as a saas founder, I can confirm you are 100% correct about this and we'll be looking at IronCalc for https://www.definite.app/

cool and slick website. reminds me of linear.app but when i attempt to scroll all the way down it lags. i'm on macbook air with chrome browser

chrome on a celeron laptop, barely if any lag

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by mritchie712 »

Alifatisk wrote: post #221
mritchie712 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as a saas founder, I can confirm you are 100% correct about this and we'll be looking at IronCalc for https://www.definite.app/

I have to mention this, when scrolling through the website, as soon as the Lakehouse illustration to the right renders, it degrades the performance on my MBP, the browser even starts to stutter!

Thanks for the feedback, on it!

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by mritchie712 »

alsetmusic wrote: post #213
jeffreyq wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cool and slick website. reminds me of linear.app but when i attempt to scroll all the way down it lags. i'm on macbook air with chrome browser

I was viewing in Safari on an M1 Max MBP with no lag. Read this and switched to Chrome and confirmed lag when scrolling. Also lagged returning upward. It was the only page open in Chrome, freshly launched specifically for this test. Safari has a bajillion open windows and tabs. Something about how Chrome handles the page is definitely odd. Just for fun, I also tested in Firefox, which was already open with fifteen wi…

Got it, any chance you could send me the version of Chrome?

This has been tricky to reproduce.

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by infoseek12 »

dleeftink wrote: post #178
respondo2134 wrote: post #173

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I think people conflate Excel the product with workflows that can be solved with Excel. Lots of tools like sheets and even numbers can do the latter, but nothing since Lotus competed with the former. So if you've never used Excel, you can probably get away with an alternative. But if you already know Excel, why would you add another product for some subset of use cases?

I'm a heavy Excel user, and I have yet to find a usecase that cannot be solved in Sheets. It has App Script after all, for whenever you run into a feature that isn't there. But even then, I've translated many Excel functions to native Sheets array_formula equivalents, and found the latter much more ergonomic.

There are lots of cases in businesses where there are integrations with other software that are difficult to port.

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by paulddraper »

anyfactor wrote: post #129

I was an excel enthusiast and studied accounting mainly for Excel. Although I have moved to programming unlike most I still do think Excel is awesome. I sincerely commend the enthusiasm, but working in the industry as the "excel expert", I think most outsider does not understand the "cult" aspect of Excel. Excel works. That is it. Trying to replace excel with anything will be percieved as replacing a calculator with…

Hardly.

Google Sheets is used for all sorts of things.

Does it REPLACE Excel? No, not fully. But a lot of the time, it does.

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by nhatcher »

bwanab wrote: post #192
nhatcher wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I understand the cult part of Excel. And to be honest, Excel is a fantastic tool. I don't think IronCalc can ever replace Excel (a boy can dream though!). But many companies need a spreadsheet of sorts they can embed in their product. Allow me a bit of humour: > Any sufficiently complicated startup or young company contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of 10% of Excel. Mayb…

> > Any sufficiently complicated startup or young company contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of 10% of Excel. Let's give Philip Greenspun due credit for this phrase. I'm going to guess there's at least one generation who isn't familiar with it.

I was tired when I wrote that. I think I just assumed everyone would get that reference

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by alsetmusic »

mritchie712 wrote: post #224
alsetmusic wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was viewing in Safari on an M1 Max MBP with no lag. Read this and switched to Chrome and confirmed lag when scrolling. Also lagged returning upward. It was the only page open in Chrome, freshly launched specifically for this test. Safari has a bajillion open windows and tabs. Something about how Chrome handles the page is definitely odd. Just for fun, I also tested in Firefox, which was already open with fifteen wi…

Got it, any chance you could send me the version of Chrome? This has been tricky to reproduce.

It didn't lag when I loaded and tested just now to grab the version of Chrome: 122.0.6261.129. Presumably, that's because I'd visited earlier. I don't want to reset Chrome to try to repro again.

I did load up Chromium to check it and got the lag there as well: 124.0.6359.0 (Developer Build)

I don't use Chrome almost ever. Maybe my outdated version is why you can't repro.

Re: IronCalc – Open-Source Spreadsheet Engine

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Post by jeffreyq »

mritchie712 wrote: post #224
alsetmusic wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was viewing in Safari on an M1 Max MBP with no lag. Read this and switched to Chrome and confirmed lag when scrolling. Also lagged returning upward. It was the only page open in Chrome, freshly launched specifically for this test. Safari has a bajillion open windows and tabs. Something about how Chrome handles the page is definitely odd. Just for fun, I also tested in Firefox, which was already open with fifteen wi…

Got it, any chance you could send me the version of Chrome? This has been tricky to reproduce.

Version 130.0.6723.92 (Official Build) (arm64)
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