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Intel might be too big to fail

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Re: Intel might be too big to fail

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naveen99 wrote: post #174
stego-tech wrote: post #70

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The IRS is one of the most effective government agencies out there, despite continued lack of funding and political mismanagement. NASA still leads space exploration, despite Congress intervening in its agendas. The mismanagement and waste come from a Congress more obsessed with its re-election and petty politics than it is actually running a gargantuan empire in a sustainable manner, not the agencies themselves, wit…

Have you tried calling the irs ? If you gave google the authority to jail customers who didn’t buy their services with 25% of income, even google might provide some customer service, but would surely provide better api’s.

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tredre3 wrote: post #179
stego-tech wrote: post #70

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The IRS is one of the most effective government agencies out there, despite continued lack of funding and political mismanagement. NASA still leads space exploration, despite Congress intervening in its agendas. The mismanagement and waste come from a Congress more obsessed with its re-election and petty politics than it is actually running a gargantuan empire in a sustainable manner, not the agencies themselves, wit…

> The IRS is one of the most effective government agencies out there It is one of the most cost effective agencies because their entire reason d'être is finding missing money and collecting it. It doesn't really say anything about them being one of the most effective in the sense of good management and having minimal waste. I had to deal with them as an immigrant and it was a nightmare of wait times.

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xhkkffbf wrote: post #111
ta1243 wrote: post #95

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Your definition of waste is likely different to other peoples.

Seems like a good one to me. I suppose there are more blatant forms of waste and raw corruption, but the entropy kind seems like one of the most important for a society to tackle.

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ocdtrekkie wrote: post #94
from-nibly wrote: post #78

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From the fact that you can get profit by removing waste. Without profit there is no reason to remove waste. Waste isn't a thing you add intentionally if you have a reason. Waste is entropy it happens unless you continually clean it out. If you don't HAVE to clean out the waste it doesn't get cleaned out.

You also apparently need to wipe out the profit occasionally or else the company gets sucked dry of functional capability out of greed. Perhaps we need a cycle of allowing capitalists to remove waste, nationalization to remove profit, and then capitalists to be allowed to begin again removing waste.

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xhkkffbf wrote: post #111
ta1243 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your definition of waste is likely different to other peoples.

Seems like a good one to me. I suppose there are more blatant forms of waste and raw corruption, but the entropy kind seems like one of the most important for a society to tackle.

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I'm actually fascinated the rise-and-fall of some mega corporations over time as times/habits change. IBM, Sears, Etc.

At one point Sears was THE place to shop for everything from back-to-school clothes, appliances and Christmas. In the early 2000's I would have thought you were either a giant fool, or a time-traveler, had you tried to tell me by 2024 Intel would be de-listed from the Dow and talk of taxpayer bailout or bankruptcy. They had a monopoly on PC/Servers. As crazy as it currently may sound but one day we could be discussing the downfall of Amazon, Microsoft and Google.

Does anyone know of good books about the business-cycle and life/death of companies?

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from-nibly wrote: post #78
PittleyDunkin wrote: post #64

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How do you figure? The profit motive isn't a factor when nationalized. Where would the waste come from?

From the fact that you can get profit by removing waste. Without profit there is no reason to remove waste. Waste isn't a thing you add intentionally if you have a reason. Waste is entropy it happens unless you continually clean it out. If you don't HAVE to clean out the waste it doesn't get cleaned out.

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from-nibly wrote: post #78
PittleyDunkin wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you figure? The profit motive isn't a factor when nationalized. Where would the waste come from?

From the fact that you can get profit by removing waste. Without profit there is no reason to remove waste. Waste isn't a thing you add intentionally if you have a reason. Waste is entropy it happens unless you continually clean it out. If you don't HAVE to clean out the waste it doesn't get cleaned out.

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