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Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by yencabulator »

unsnap_biceps wrote: post #31

Just a FYI, this feature will install a binary on the remote host and run it. > Your local machine will attempt to connect to the remote server using the ssh binary on your path. Assuming the connection is successful, Zed will download the server on the remote host and start it. https://zed.dev/docs/remote-development

Executing random binaries off the internet is such an annoying "modern" thing. I do not want that, I want to build things from (open source) source.

You can whack Zed in the head by putting in ~/.config/zed/settings.json

      "server_url": "https://disable-stupid-crap.zed.invalid",
And that stops it from doing a lot of this unwanted stuff. (Haven't tested this binary download bit yet.)

It also manages to break the `zed: extensions` page even for already-installed extensions. I sure feel like I'm being the product..

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by yencabulator »

echoangle wrote: post #37
unsnap_biceps wrote: post #31

Just a FYI, this feature will install a binary on the remote host and run it. > Your local machine will attempt to connect to the remote server using the ssh binary on your path. Assuming the connection is successful, Zed will download the server on the remote host and start it. https://zed.dev/docs/remote-development

That's what VS Code does too, BTW.

Microsoft is not the bar for what's a good solution for open source Linux operating systems.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by DrBazza »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #171
DrBazza wrote: post #83

Has anyone tried this and ssh'd into a container ? IIRC VSCode struggled to correctly ssh into a container that's set up in your `.ssh` config file. Not sure if this fixed it: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/194879

I just connected from VS Code running on Windows to a devcontainer running on a Steam Deck

I'm not familiar with devcontainers. The situation I was curious about was a general container, for example singularity, rather than something more common like docker. When I've tried that with vscode, it didn't like the ssh config that allowed you to ssh into the container and wouldn't work, even though in a bash shell it worked exactly as advertised.

Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by [deleted] »

pseudony wrote: post #48

Can someone explain. What is the catch ? Zed is worked on by paid employees. So who is the product, how is the money made and is it open source and if so, how much ? (Vscode has strings attached too) Just interested since building my workflows around a company's products usually ends in tears (figuratively).

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Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by [deleted] »

xg15 wrote: post #142
benterix wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might happen the way you describe, or, if they get more popular, then may try to think harder and offer more paid options. Now they're in a growth stage - they need to convince the largest possible number of developers they should switch from VS Code, and that is already a difficult task.

I know, this is the standard VC playbook: First growth at all costs to get everyone into the ecosystem, then pull up the net and monetize. The latter phase is usually when all the subscriptions, value-add nag screens, data sharing agreements and other enshittification goodies pop up. And how would it work otherwise? You can't perpetually offer a product for free (in all senses of the word) AND satisfy exponential ROI…

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Re: SSH Remoting

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Post by bigfatkitten »

JeremyNT wrote: post #180
shafyy wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a VC-backed company, this will never ever generate enough revenue growth. So, the real answer is: "If all goes well, we will keep raising VC money and get acquired and shutdown / butchered in 5-10 years". Like Bluesky, this monetization plan they present is just something to calm down the haters and sceptics. But if you think for two seconds, it does not make sense.

Well as an end user this is pretty much OK right, so long as you are aware of the deal? VC funded companies have subsidized and then abandoned a lot of useful OSS code over the years. Whenever you encounter a VC backed open source project you know the rug pull will come eventually. It doesn't make the code they have written any less useful. If the tool is good enough then it will be forked and live on.

They're already laying the groundwork for a rug pull.

The fact that the developers will happy let you hide any button in the UI except the sign in button is a giant red flag.

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/11802

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