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It will probably help to prolong certain products shelf life but it isn’t a perfect system.
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Geez, that is aggravating. Do they really think that a completely unsealed cardboard box with holes in it is keeping out all the germs? Sometimes I think we've really failed ourselves regarding basic biology and education requirements.
in Europe it's forbidden to sell washed eggs, so you're literally buying eggs covered in chicken shit, it's an interesting regulatory divergence.
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We were college students; we ate it ourselves. We also had access to a commercial kitchen, and anything getting close to going bad we’d make into prepared food, which always sold really fast. We couldn’t do that with our milk vendor though, because they would only give us credit for unsold AND unconsumed milk. We had to let the milk go bad, which was a huge waste. I also used to dumpster dive, and yes, grocery stores…
kaikai says "It’s wild what people will do in order to keep people from getting something they don’t “deserve,” even when it’s literal trash." But you haven't "stood in the other man's shoes" and seen it from his/her perspective. Businesses are strictly regulated. They are required by law to dispose of certain old/damaged/discarded foodstuff and are not allowed to sell it for human consumption. Likely a second compan…
Laws are rules created by people and we have the ability to change them. At the very least, we have the ability and moral responsibility to ignore them when they are unethical.
Also, I have never sold dumpstered food or given it to anyone who didn’t know it was dumpstered. I HAVE gotten injured dumpstering, and didn’t sue anyone for it. I DID get sick once from dumpstered food, and didn’t sue anyone for it (I’ve also gotten sick from eating at restaurants, and didn’t sue them, either).
For me, basic human rights and care for each other will always trump laws and property rights. And yes, I’ve done jail time for it and would do it again. I know that we won’t agree, and don’t need to change your mind. I do hope that you can understand the difference between knowing and understanding the rules, and blindly following the rules.
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Geez, that is aggravating. Do they really think that a completely unsealed cardboard box with holes in it is keeping out all the germs? Sometimes I think we've really failed ourselves regarding basic biology and education requirements.
in Europe it's forbidden to sell washed eggs, so you're literally buying eggs covered in chicken shit, it's an interesting regulatory divergence.
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I don’t even keep things like soy sauce or something like Tabasco in the fridge. Much less vinegars. I suspect a lot of people are inclined to.
Tabasco is fine in the pantry or on the counter. Tabasco in particular isn't just vinegar-based, it's nearly entirely vinegar. Its ingredients list is vinegar, salt and crushed peppers that are then strained before bottling. It is a very inhospitable environment for botulism - or anything else. Many other types of hot sauces contain oils and/or are not strained of organic matter and/or contain blended organic matter.…
Montana uses Sell-By dates to artificially ban out-of-state milk. They want to promote in-state business (dairy farmers). Montana purposefully has short Sell-by diary dates, because it makes it prohibitive for an out-of-state dairy to transport their milk into Montana. https://www.nrdc.org/bio/dana-gunders/how-montanas-sell-date...
I hate this kind of mendacity. Wanting to protect their dairy industry is understandable, but perpetuating a fraud upon consumers is not the way to do it.
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I pick the older one to make sure the supply chain still works well.
It's not incumbent on you to manage the supply chain. The people who are earning profits from servicing that chain have that responsibility. The entire system is best served if you operate with your _own_ best interests in mind.
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I wish regulators stopped trying to be poetic and just use clear English. What's "best by?" You need to write "do not eat after." Nobody needs to be explained what that means.
"best buy" is pretty plain English. It means the manufacturer beleives the product will be at its best up to that date.
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Tabasco is fine in the pantry or on the counter. Tabasco in particular isn't just vinegar-based, it's nearly entirely vinegar. Its ingredients list is vinegar, salt and crushed peppers that are then strained before bottling. It is a very inhospitable environment for botulism - or anything else. Many other types of hot sauces contain oils and/or are not strained of organic matter and/or contain blended organic matter.…
I do refrigerate Siracha. But I admit I make my decisions more on gut feel than anything else.
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It's not incumbent on you to manage the supply chain. The people who are earning profits from servicing that chain have that responsibility. The entire system is best served if you operate with your _own_ best interests in mind.
I am smart enough to know that the food with expiration dates gets taken off the shelf and then some human being has to move it somewhere else if I don't take it. How does that not serve the system? I like being efficient and filling in gaps where it doesn't matter. Freshness differentials on shelves isn't worth it for me or the business.
Sure, but selecting the oldest groceries on the shelf is not a factor, as it's not your efficiency you're improving.
> filling in gaps where it doesn't matter.
If the store is arranging its stock orders incorrectly then they should fix that. They have a much better opportunity to have impacts here than your gap filling ever will.
Why don't they actually do this then? Because the 2% loss on waste can't be made up by the 5% additional cost of labor to "right size" the order perfectly every time.
Finally it's only waste because we don't manage these outputs correctly and have a single dumpster where all "garbage" goes. Food recycling and city compost programs could close the rest of the loop far more efficiently than any of this.
> Freshness differentials on shelves isn't worth it for me or the business.
No, it's just the entire rest of the supply chain.