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Boeing workers vote to strike

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

fragmede wrote: post #146
echelon wrote: post #142

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Boeing engineers should leave and start their own company. "American dynamism" is hot right now and there should be ample funding available. Lots of the old dinosaurs are being nipped at by nimble upstarts like Anduril.

Have you seen how much lambasting Boom Aerospace gets every time they come up? Starting a new aerospace company isn't for the faint of heart!

> much lambasting Boom Aerospace gets

If Boom wants respect, they should merge with Sergey Brin's LTA Research.

Supersonic airships are the future's future.

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Post by refurb »

naasking wrote: post #196
refurb wrote: post #185

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> Stock buybacks used to be illegal in the States up until 1982. You can thank Raegan for that too This is not true, but seems to come up a lot. I guess it makes for one of those fun "internet facts" that people like to repeat without any investigation. Bonus points for blaming Reagan. Stock buybacks were not illegal before 1982. If you sit down even think through it, it doesn't even make sense they were illegal. Jus…

> So stock buy backs were legal before 1982, but companies faced a risk of stock manipulation if they were reckless in how they did it. Sounds like a much better state of affairs.

Really? You think it's bad that the government is explicit in its rules?

I think that's a good thing. I'd rather have it be clear to all parties what is acceptable and what isn't, rather that a murky legal framework where you never know if you're breaking the law.

Re: Boeing workers vote to strike

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Post by schmidtleonard »

diggan wrote: post #213
aners_xyz wrote: post #207

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I’m not really sure this framing makes any sense if I’m being honest.

What private corporation could make mistakes where people lose their lives on the same scale while still operating as normal afterwards?

People dying due to profit-motivated corporate negligence and the corporations in question getting a slap on the wrist? Must be a day ending in "y."

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Post by ramon156 »

Larrikin wrote: post #219
diggan wrote: post #204

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Once you start thinking of Boeing as a government agency with less oversight that poses as a for-profit corporation, a lot of things start to make more sense. Including what you wrote about.

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That's not reality though. Sure, you could argue that this is how a government should work, but everything is always about improving the economy first

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Post by droopyEyelids »

coldpie wrote: post #209
ericd wrote: post #203

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Because they have a set of specialized skills with only a few potential buyers, and if they kill this one, they’ll have very limited options that use their skills without massively uprooting their lives.

The workers aren't the ones killing the company.

This is obviously true but one of the biggest privileges of management is being able to deny this specific bit of reality

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Post by piva00 »

diggan wrote: post #213
aners_xyz wrote: post #207

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I’m not really sure this framing makes any sense if I’m being honest.

What private corporation could make mistakes where people lose their lives on the same scale while still operating as normal afterwards?

Probably all of the oil industry?

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Post by beaglesss »

BlarfMcFlarf wrote: post #163
beaglesss wrote: post #83

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You can't count all the dead from flight being held back FAA. It's similar with housing regulations -- the code inspector sees dead in a house but not the 10 homeless people he killed by making housing less accessible.

How would insufficient ability to make more dangerous planes kill anyone? By what mechanism? Who, for example? What are you even talking about?

One example is FAA balking at certifying evtols for years after they started to emerge. They're dangerous but could allow more accessible rescue options for people already in a dangerous survival situation, or need a fast ride to a hospital.

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Post by thehappypm »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #184
meiraleal wrote: post #173

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Computers used to be very, very expensive. Residential telephone lines were acquired through mortgage a couple decades ago in my country so being expensive now doesn't mean expensive forever.

unlike with computers, there's some pretty obvious barriers that limit the efficiency of supersonic airplanes. your volume has a strict lower bound from the size of passengers and luggage, your engines have a lower bound since there's only so much air you can push against, and your drag has a lower bound of a perfectly smooth aerofoil that produces lift and can fit the people and luggage. Even if you take the most op…

What if you leave the atmosphere?

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Post by foobarboo »

ramon156 wrote: post #224
Larrikin wrote: post #219

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That's not reality though. Sure, you could argue that this is how a government should work, but everything is always about improving the economy first

The government is allowed to care about the economy as a means to improve peoples lifes.

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Post by godzillabrennus »

Larrikin wrote: post #219
diggan wrote: post #204

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Once you start thinking of Boeing as a government agency with less oversight that poses as a for-profit corporation, a lot of things start to make more sense. Including what you wrote about.

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If you think government agencies exist to solely help the American people then how do you explain the DMV experience?
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