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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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You do know that they pushed it left and right as 'dropbox' share everything platform targeting pirate groups with referral money right? He was not early or anything he was literally pushing pirated movies and TV shows

Wait until you hear how Crunchyroll got to where they did! Plex is on much the same trajectory. Heck, even Google Play Music used the strategy by letting people upload their pirated music libraries to get users. It's a tried and true strategy.

Plex and GPM never distributed pirated content, they just allowed users to host or upload their own content.

Every social media allows image uploads and no one thinks about that but images online are constantly breaking copyright law.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective. I’d argue Kim was too successful and too unlikeable at the end of the day, and that was probably his downfall. Toward the end, MEGA had transitioned to actually partnering with hip hop artists for distribution. The US has a long history of IP rights holders criminalizing new…

> A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective.

I'd say it would be a a reasonable perspective if his case was being tried where the offences actually took place and/or where he was a citizen of and not a country who refuses to give the same rights to non-citizens being tried there compared to citizens[1] and wasn't even where the offense took place. This is absolutely chilling for anyone who isn't an US citizen honestly.

[1]:https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c511y42z1p7o

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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sad to see that kind of comments in HN. I feel that 10 years ago there was more room for accepting that a political opponent should be free to speak up. now our educated masses are pushing for prison and extradition because they don't belong to the axis of good.... you def cannot be for opensource and its values and say things like that

I don't understand your line of thought. The question with Kim was not about open-source, was about copyright and intellectual property all along. As other comments noted, the man literally made millions distributing copyrighted material, while completely aware of what he was doing.

chatgpt is doing just that and they re being praised for it. hell they even break deal with gov agencies

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective. I’d argue Kim was too successful and too unlikeable at the end of the day, and that was probably his downfall. Toward the end, MEGA had transitioned to actually partnering with hip hop artists for distribution. The US has a long history of IP rights holders criminalizing new…

> without cutting in the existing rights holders properly. That's the killer, right there. "existing rights holders" is a big deal, and one that has been ignored by tech bros for a long time. As a [former] artist, and [former] musician, I can say that the tech industry has been cooking the Goose that Lays the Golden Eggs. The opportunity for individual financial and ego success is a huge driver for modern popular art…

The music industry isn’t a “goose that lays golden eggs” for the greater economy. It’s not as democratic or accessible as the tech industry either.

You’d have a stronger argument if it was at least fair to the artists that it purportedly represents. It’s not.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective. I’d argue Kim was too successful and too unlikeable at the end of the day, and that was probably his downfall. Toward the end, MEGA had transitioned to actually partnering with hip hop artists for distribution. The US has a long history of IP rights holders criminalizing new…

Pagers created a new business model for drug dealers. It didn't change the criminality of drug dealing.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Wasn't the allegation that Mega uploaded copywritten content to themselves to kick things off with something people wanted?

You confusing it with MegaUpload that was shutdown 12 years ago. When MEGA launched Kim was well known enough where his new service got tracktion on it's own.

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Didn't YouTube get popular on pirated content first? What was the main difference of the initial phase of YouTube and MegaUpload? They both went legal later.

I think youtube cooperated with taking pirated content down while Kim was a bit like screw you, I'm offshore, you can't get me.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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I believe the implications are a bit different. It takes a lot of time to learn to make music. If you can’t make it as a famous artists (the odds of which are about as high as becoming a football star), you previously still had the option to use your music skills to make money with boring work: music for ads for example. That’s going away. Now it’s becoming a lot more like professional sports: either you make it, or…

"either you make it, or your hard earned skills are useless on the job market" I think uncommon focus, discipline, physical and mental dexterity along with the ability to perform under pressure are being undervalued here.

I've been out of work for close to 6 months now, actively searching, interviewing every week, and finding that what the job market seems to value is that you have done the exact same thing as what they are hiring for.

I've discovered breakthrough algos and delivered solutions which personalize medical care, sometimes with life and death outcomes.

Yet somehow that doesn't count when the company wants someone who has done personalization for consumer products.

I have other examples from other common DS roles/tasks, where I have done the equivalent thing to that role in a different context. And somehow that never seems to count.

So no, I don't have strong evidence that the job market values generic skills. Perhaps your experience has been different?

I can also hear someone saying "with the attitude that the poster is taking, I'm not surprised"-- so let me point out how difficult it is to extract attitude from text, and that the context here (presenting evidence to refute a claim) is very different from an interview context.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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It's still a human. He just shared songs on the the internet. He's treated like a war criminal.

He didn't "share songs on the internet". He created a site where you can upload anything with complete privacy and anonymity. And then used it for racketeering, allegedly, which is where the government interest starts. The RIAA/MPAA want their pound of flesh, too, and it gave plenty of fertile ground for the US DOJ to build a case around so that they could get discovery and find out what they were really trying to ge…

> And then used it for racketeering, allegedly, which is where the government interest starts.

MPAA/RIAA needing to be saved from racketeering is epic levels of irony

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