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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

Folks with H1B visas have an undue burden on any attempt to move jobs. Also interviewing is hell for many tech folks who are extremely introverted (myself included in that last part.)

Just getting an interview isn't easy for most in this economy.

Or maybe I'm just thoroughly unlikable.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Both are quite boring mid-size cities that are heavily overpriced for what they offer. SF is more exciting/prettier yet less safe than SJ.

The 17th largest city in the US is mid-sized?

San Jose has this problem where instead of acting like a top 20 city they act like Lubbock.

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during one visit to those Zendesk offices an urgent slack message (verily) was sent out advising everyone to get away from the windows, as there was shooting outside. About 10 minutes later also via Slack the CEO announced not to worry it was simply one drug dealer shooting another drug dealer in the back. Everyone could return to their desks. I never understood why the company would put its employees in danger until…

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Because in reality, as in statistically, SF is actually not that dangerous.

People say this about any vaguely blue city, which is almost all of them. But they forget Urban areas are very dense. You're actually more likely, per capita, to die to gun violence in rural America. It's just very hard to see that because the coverage isn't there and the actual amount of deaths is lower.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Twitter was given a famously sweet deal by the city to occupy that troubled stretch of Market St. In the time I lived nearby (until the pandemic) the area never really improved. San Francisco has an odd tolerance for the tent communities, no just that it largely allows them, but that it allows them in and around the busiest and most publicly-utilized transit hubs and the city center.

I recall seeing some stories years ago was that one issue with Twitter (and most Bay area tech companies at the time) was that due to the presence of an on campus cafeteria, surrounding areas never got much benefit from Twitter's presence. That is, workers would show up to the building, and then essentially never leave (and spend money at nearby businesses) until the day was over and they went home.

Yes, that's how politicians and activists are shifting blame from their lack of interest in solving the issue to sacrificial goats.

The streets are full of homeless and drugged out people? That's not the reason restaurants are failing, it's the tech bro's cafeteria!

The house prices are sky high? It's not single house zoning and politicians blocking any house building, it's the rich tech bros gentrifying your neighborhood!

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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It’s been a while since we had sf offices, but back when we did sf had a pretty aggressive additional payroll tax and gross receipts taxes. I’d imagine this is likely a factor in the decision. I know for a while they were waiving some of these taxes for companies who set up offices in certain parts of the city. E.g. zendesk got a big tax break for its market street location near the tenderloin. As for commutes, I’d b…

I can’t find it because X search sucks, but Musk has stated before he despises the concept of remote work.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

probably got kicked out since Elon did not want to pay rent. Maybe the locks got changed.

Given the surrounding conditions of lower Market, the landlord would probably need to pay someone to occupy the building if X didn’t.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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SF certainly has its challenges. But in my 9 years of working in the financial district I never saw something like this. Obviously others will have different experiences than me. Point is, you can find crime and bad things in any city. San Francisco has work to do, but isn't the hell-hole people or the news make it out to be.

Thats odd because SF _has_ been the hell-hole people and the media have described it as in my own experiences.

It would seem to me that Chicago, NYC, LA do have "bad parts" but they're distinctly separate from the "good parts". San Francisco's bad parts and good parts have evidently merged.

I do not understand why people who live in SF have to effectively gaslight themselves into believing that the breakdown of certain basic tenants of society is part of the culture of their city.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Because in reality, as in statistically, SF is actually not that dangerous. People say this about any vaguely blue city, which is almost all of them. But they forget Urban areas are very dense. You're actually more likely, per capita, to die to gun violence in rural America. It's just very hard to see that because the coverage isn't there and the actual amount of deaths is lower.

Note: “not that dangerous” means you will be confined in extremely stressful dangerous situations routinely. situations that, statistically, you and the frantic crowd will leave physically unscathed

Maybe we should add mental health to these statistics

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Did San Jose agree to let them use their incredibly obnoxious blinking X logo eyesore? ‘SHUT IT OFF!!’ Disruptive new ‘X’ logo removed in San Francisco: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/31/twitter... >Construction crews dismantled the giant, blinking ‘X’ logo after 24 complaints were logged with the city San Jose is much more permissive than San Francisco when it comes to shitty public art: San Jose’…

The new HQ should have a giant neon poo emoji for a sign.
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