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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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| It is running in xwayland though It definitely isn't on my system, and I did not touch the configs at all; are you sure about that?

Fairly positive due to blurry cursors, but I have no way to verify.

If you run xlsclients it will list all applications running through xwayland.

[0] https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xorg-xlsclients/

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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This comes across as rather entitled. They offer an easy installation path that works for most people. They also went out of their way to provide alternative installation methods and instructions [1]. All while gifting you and the world free and open source software. [1] https://zed.dev/docs/linux

My interest is not in using this text editor as a consumer, but in guiding software development culture in general, particularly when it comes to installation of Linux applications. Some talks I have given on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1XqP4-qOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXixVcliP0 So, I think "entitled" is the wrong insult. "arrogant" would be more accurate.

You've dedicated your adult life to massaging ABIs and openly admit your "non-polished" solution is an idealistic holy grail, and yet you expect some text editor with a non-existent path to profitability to have hewn to your every private thought about Linux binary versatility, and that sir is bullshit.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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I'm never using this editor unless it can install itself and work completely offline, without going for downloads and making web requests , it is crucial, especially after totally not related xz fiasco and the white house praise for rust.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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The last collaborative editor that I could use locally successfully was gobby. Currently its development is very slow or seems abandoned. I've been waiting for Zed because it was introduced as something that was "multiplayer-first" from the beginning. Reading the docs now, it looks like I need a feature called "channels" that I couldn't confirm can be used fully locally. Is there a way to use Zed as a collaborative e…

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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…

I think people just have very different tolerances for latency and slowness. I keep trying different editors (including VS Code), and I always end up going back to Neovim because everything else just feels sluggish, to the point where it annoys me so much I'm willing to put up with all the configuration burden of Neovim because of it. I tried out Zed and it actually feels fast enough for me to consider switching.

Zed is still quite a bit slower than Neovim in my experience.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Just a suggestion. One of the best features of pure text editors (and incredible, not all of them implement it) is autosave keeping the "unsaved" state of the file. For example, if you make some changes in a file (new or not), don't save the changes, close and open the editor, the state of the opened files are kept like I never had closed the editor. The unsaved files are still unsaved. New edited files are still the…

Similarly, I have unlimited persistent per-file undo turned on in Neovim. I can open any file I've edited previously and walk through the full history of how it got there. With Undotree [0], I can even navigate branching paths in development. I don't know how people live without this.

[0] https://github.com/mbbill/undotree

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…

A few weeks ago I had this giant json text blob to debug. I tried Gedit first, and it just fell over completely. Tried vim next, and it was for some reason extremely slow too, which surprised me. VSCode loaded it nearly immediately and didn't hang when moving around the file. I have my complaints about VSCode, but speed definitely isn't one of them.

Weird, I had the exact opposite experience. I had a large Markdown file I was editing and VSCode would simply hang or crash when opening it. Neovim on the other hand actually was able to navigate and edit just fine.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Sadly I can't run it in WSL. thread 'main' panicked at crates/gpui/src/platform/linux/wayland/client.rs:143:51: called `Result::unwrap()` on an `Err` value: UnsupportedVersion note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace

Man, what kinda of QA do they have that they miss something like this? WSL can be considered the second largest Linux "distro".

Of course, zed has always felt like an osx first project with linux/windows being second class citizen.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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For me the "killer feature" is a graphical editor (like VSCode or the Jet Brains editors) but with performance more like vim. I'm also very much enjoying the modal editing, which VSCode lacks.

Wait, Zed is a modal editor? All i've seen is that it has vim mode, which most editors have and i generally find it insufficient. Granted these days i still prefer Kakoune style modal editing (i use Helix, currently), so not sure i could move back to Vim style anyway. Nonetheless if Zed has real, first class support i'd be interested... but a second class compat layer is not sufficient in my view. How's it work for y…

It's not a modal editor, it just has a modal (vim) emulation mode.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Sublime Text 3 is still one of my favorite editors. I use VSCode lately because of its excellent "Remote SSH" integration - but when it comes to latency sublime has it beat. Zed does not feel fast on my machine, which is a 13900K/128gb ram. It is running in xwayland though, so that could be part of the problem. It feels identical to vscode.

Sublime's focused/minimalist UI is nice. VS Code sometimes feels like it tries to do too much. My ideal editor would probably be something like a variation on Sublime Text that's modeled more closely after TextMate while keeping the bits that make Sublime better (like the command palette).

Sublime is the better Textmate. What would you do to subl to make it more like mate? I used textmate for years and years before switching to ST and it was a drop-in replacement.
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