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Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

golergka wrote: post #179
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like the kind of investment in the commons that a socialist would make. In 1973 the US encouraged a coup to ensure that no such investments were made ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta... ). Instead, we applied guns to the affected area and ensured that they would part with their resources as "fair free-market prices" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Boys ). They've star…

That's why Chile is the most successful economy on the continent.

I won't try to speak for the Chileans, but while I was there I did not get the feeling that they are happy about the intervention. The more I learned about my country's role in their history, the more surprised I was that they were being so nice to me. (I was there, along with my naiveté, to see a solar eclipse, so the cultural stuff I picked up along the way was a bit of a surprise).

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Post by stickfigure »

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y.

Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considering that Spaniards only represent about 10% of the total Spanish-speaking population, I'm not sure that's fair.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by nine_k »

throwup238 wrote: post #3

My key takeaway from this article is that the best place to go see the Milky Way is deep in the Amazon rainforest… where the tree cover is nearly 100% and there isn’t a single road for a hundred miles. That’s a neat collection of graphics. I’m curious how bespoke the creation process is for each graphic or if this is something everyone just does in ArcGis or similar. That last graphic about the Western US being the o…

Rather, go to Atacama, in Chile. It's a desert with pretty transparent air and little to no clouds, far from anywhere, and easier to traverse than a forest. It's also rather closer to the South pole, so not as hot as Amazon.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by tuckerconnelly »

stickfigure wrote: post #222

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y. Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considerin…

Yeah based on my in-laws, Chilean seems understandable, though they tend to speak fast.

Argentine Spanish is the strange one, due to the heavy Italian influence.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by flobosg »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #221
golergka wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why Chile is the most successful economy on the continent.

I won't try to speak for the Chileans, but while I was there I did not get the feeling that they are happy about the intervention. The more I learned about my country's role in their history, the more surprised I was that they were being so nice to me. (I was there, along with my naiveté, to see a solar eclipse, so the cultural stuff I picked up along the way was a bit of a surprise).

The country is still polarized to some extent so YMMV, depending on who you spoke with.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by MVissers »

nine_k wrote: post #223
throwup238 wrote: post #3

My key takeaway from this article is that the best place to go see the Milky Way is deep in the Amazon rainforest… where the tree cover is nearly 100% and there isn’t a single road for a hundred miles. That’s a neat collection of graphics. I’m curious how bespoke the creation process is for each graphic or if this is something everyone just does in ArcGis or similar. That last graphic about the Western US being the o…

Rather, go to Atacama, in Chile. It's a desert with pretty transparent air and little to no clouds, far from anywhere, and easier to traverse than a forest. It's also rather closer to the South pole, so not as hot as Amazon.

Agree with this. It’s the most beautiful night sky I’ve ever seen.

The stars seemed to shine 10x brighter than other places, even those without light pollution.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by asveikau »

tuckerconnelly wrote: post #224
stickfigure wrote: post #222

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y. Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considerin…

Yeah based on my in-laws, Chilean seems understandable, though they tend to speak fast. Argentine Spanish is the strange one, due to the heavy Italian influence.

I saw an interesting video showing Argentines in the 90s vs Argentines today, both in BA with more or less the same age and status, and the former group had way more of that "Italian" sounding accent. I think it's going away or softening over time. A shame, because I like it.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by asveikau »

stickfigure wrote: post #222

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y. Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considerin…

A lot of Spanish speaking memes and videos I see have this running joke that Chileans are hard to understand. I don't think it's a literal truth or meant to be taken seriously. They just hand pick a few examples of people who talk very fast, which exist in most Spanish speaking countries (in Spain, Andalusia would be it). There are similar videos in the same circles talking about how hard English is based on a drunk American redneck fisherman or Adele's working class London speech. It's just a meme.

These memes are popular in Latin America, it's definitely not just a Spain thing.

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stickfigure wrote: post #222

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y. Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considerin…

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Post by loeg »

stickfigure wrote: post #222

Hmmm. From my travels through Latin America, I would rate Colombian accents as by far the easiest to understand. Without exception, everyone spoke with clear diction and enunciation. I would definitely not rate it "very hard" - that would be reserved for the Honduran accent, which I found incomprehensible even spoken s-l-o-w-l-y. Looks like they're rating "difficulty" as "difference from Spanish in Spain". Considerin…

I don't think the cross-comparison chart is based on Spanish from Spain: https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr...
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