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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

What happens when small-firm doctors, therapists, dentists, etc. are suddenly having your (their patients') medical information backed-up to OneDrive? Microsoft only provide HIPAA compliance if a certain paid tier is purchased. If they automatically turn OneDrive on how will this not be a privacy nightmare?

Surely this has happened with this latest change? It got turned on for my work machine a few months ago and tried to upload some very large modelling files to the cloud. I have to keep that stuff in the root dir now, but most PC users don't even know what the root dir is.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Oh, I mean, the "why" is pretty simple. They're going to enable onedrive upload by default, wait until the sync finishes, then change the EULA to allow them to scrape everyone's onedrive for machine learning data that they can then sell. >>Welcome to hell.

> change the EULA Have you read the Windows privacy policy any time in the last decade? They don't need to change anything.

I can't tell you the last time I read a EULA. Probably back when software still came in a box and they put the EULA in said box, and I was stuck on the toilet without any other reading materials.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

> But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is.

I wondered that also, before WSL. After WSL I think they're squeezing every penny out of Windows while preparing to transition to a hybrid OS which over time could become more and more similar to Linux, except for some MS closed source sauce (module, library, driver, ...) that would make some very popular app developed under it not run, or run slower|crippled on real Linux.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

Whats wrong with debian?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

I just discovered the OneDrive path last night. Bought a gaming laptop a couple of months ago. Only use it for gaming. No Office use or anything like that. Uninstalled OneDrive within the first hour of using it. Didn't notice paths for Documents et al were altered until last night when I was trying to fix a minor problem. Despite never agreeing to OneDrive and uninstalling it very shortly after the machine was turned on, all my paths to the preset folders are now \name\OneDrive\.

Found ways to change it. Have no idea if I should. It's currently working and afaik OneDrive isn't slurping any data from it. There's no data to slurp other than savegames anyways.

But it still left a bad taste. I think my laptop is well supported by the major distros. I already know my favorite games work on Linux thanks to my Steam Deck. Having a strong urge to just abandon Windows for good.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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> change the EULA Have you read the Windows privacy policy any time in the last decade? They don't need to change anything.

I can't tell you the last time I read a EULA. Probably back when software still came in a box and they put the EULA in said box, and I was stuck on the toilet without any other reading materials.

I assume that every EULA basically says, “we can do whatever we want and there’s nothing you can do about it. Also, fuck you. Also, you’re ugly.”

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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post #101

This happened to me. I was wondering why my internet speeds were slow when I discovered that Microsoft was in the process of uploading my users directory, they had already uploaded almost two gigs when I realized. They also changed the path to these directories to something like C:\Users\name\OneDrive\Desktop\. Another poster in this thread claimed it's easy to reverse -- I disagree, it's a pain in the ass to track d…

> I understand Microsoft has built up good will through efforts like VS Code, but it's all undone because of things like this. Someone in Microsoft should look into who is making these decisions, why these decisions are are being made, and why they are being received so negatively. Then they need to address them. Even though I'm not much of a fan of Microsoft products, I get the impression that they have some excelle…

Why do you assume these decisions are made below c suite level?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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> It's hard to convey without coming off as unhinged Man. I have felt this way a whole lot lately. I think some people see Linux users and genuinely can't fathom how or why they'd want to go through all of the trouble choosing to use Linux and doing real work on it. A lot of us look back just as puzzled, because when I switched to a Linux desktop for the first time in around 2004, it was definitely a choice, but it h…

Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

FWIW, I continue to run Linux as my primary desktop, and I do not regret it. Nothing is free, but very few things are worth your dignity. I made my choices.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Yeah I ran Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017 and I regret it. Since then I run Windows 10 + WSL and life is good. Win10 support ends next year and I am at a complete loss at what to do. Linux desktop never worked, never will, the incentives are not there. It's only free if you don't value your time. As I wrote before , your choices are Ubuntu where an OS upgrade shatters your entire system so throughly it takes days…

Why shit on the group of people who are taking the time to create a viable alternative to the bullshit that Microsoft and Apple try and cram down our throats? Instead of begging for help, why not be that help for someone else?

I have been an open source developer for twenty years.
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