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Post by cwillu »

jiveturkey wrote: post #193
dougb5 wrote: post #125

> Building safe superintelligence (SSI) is the most important technical problem of our time. Call me a cranky old man but the superlatives in these sorts of announcements really annoy me. I want to ask: Have you surveyed every problem in the world? Are you aware of how much suffering there is outside of your office and how unresponsive it has been so far to improvements in artificial intelligence? Are you really sayi…

exactly. and define safe. eg, is it safe (ie dereliction) to _not_ use ai to monitor dirty bomb threats? or more simple, CSAM?

In the context of super-intelligence, “safe” has been perfectly well defined for decades: “won't ultimately result in everyone dying or worse”.

You can call it hubris if you like, but don't pretend like it's not clear.

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Post by hyperliner »

almogo wrote: post #188
dougb5 wrote: post #125

> Building safe superintelligence (SSI) is the most important technical problem of our time. Call me a cranky old man but the superlatives in these sorts of announcements really annoy me. I want to ask: Have you surveyed every problem in the world? Are you aware of how much suffering there is outside of your office and how unresponsive it has been so far to improvements in artificial intelligence? Are you really sayi…

Technical. He's saying it's the most important technical problem of our time.

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #66

I understand the concern that a "superintelligence" will emerge that will escape its bounds and threaten humanity. That is a risk. My bigger, and more pressing worry, is that a "superintelligence" will emerge that does not escape its bounds, and the question will be which humans control it. Look no further than history to see what happens when humans acquire great power. The "cold war" nuclear arms race, which brough…

There is no "superintelligence" or "AGI".

People are falling for marketing gimmicks.

These models will remain in the word vector similarity phase forever. Till the time we understand consciousness, we will not crack AGI and then it won't take brute forcing of large swaths of data, but tiny amounts.

So there is nothing to worry. These "apps" might be as popular as Excel, but will go no further.

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Post by deegles »

TaupeRanger wrote: post #181
dougb5 wrote: post #125

> Building safe superintelligence (SSI) is the most important technical problem of our time. Call me a cranky old man but the superlatives in these sorts of announcements really annoy me. I want to ask: Have you surveyed every problem in the world? Are you aware of how much suffering there is outside of your office and how unresponsive it has been so far to improvements in artificial intelligence? Are you really sayi…

Trying to create "safe superintelligence" before creating anything remotely resembling or approaching "superintelligence" is like trying to create "safe Dyson sphere energy transport" before creating a Dyson Sphere. And the hubris is just a cringe inducing bonus.

'Fearing a rise of killer robots is like worrying about overpopulation on Mars.' - Andrew Ng

Re: Safe Superintelligence Inc.

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Post by sgt »

JanSt wrote: post #167
sgt wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you realize that blaming opinions on antisemitism will - ironically - cause or contribute to antisemitism in the long run.

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I don't blame you from reading the original comment like that, since he explicitly mentioned "jewish". However, the way I read it was rather a criticism to what the Israeli state is doing, led by Netanyahoo etc.

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Post by dudeinhawaii »

JanSt wrote: post #107
seydor wrote: post #85

I know it is a difficult subject but whichever country gets access to this superintelligence will certainly use it for "safety" reasons. Sutskever has lived in israel and now has a team there , but israel doesnt strike me as a state that can be trusted with the safety of the world. (many of the AI business leaders are of jewish descent, but not sure if they have half their team there). US on the other hand is a known…

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I don't think this was antisemitism per se. It was a condemnation of the Jewish state of Israel, which is openly associated with the religion and ethnicity. The comment struck me more as "Israel doesn't always play by the rules, why would we trust AI built there to play by the rules".

I don't share this opinion, but I think you're throwing out to rage bait rather than engaging on the topic or discussion.

I think it's a valid criticism or point to bring up even if it's phrased/framed somewhat poorly.

Re: Safe Superintelligence Inc.

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Post by xoac »

“Safe”. These people market themselves as protecting you from a situation which will not come very soon if at all, while all working towards a very real situation of AI just replacing human labor with a shittier result. All that while making themselves quite rich. Just another high-end tech scam.

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

gibsonf1 wrote: post #59

Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves, does this new company plan to take a more human approach to simulating intelligence instead?

This. As I wrote in another comment, people fall for marketing gimmicks easily.

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Post by esafak »

EncomLab wrote: post #217
esafak wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they will easily find enough capable altruistic people for this mission.

I mean SBF was into Altruism - look how that turned out....

So what? He was a phony. And I'm not talking about the Effective Altruism movement.
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