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It's sickening how corporations like Apple and governments like EU council use child abuse for wide, unrestricted invigilation of common folk. "Guilty until proven innocent" seems to be the new reality.
"Your child could be used in pornography"
"Criminals are selling weed via text message for €5 a gram"
The Simpsons "won't someone think of the children" meme demonstrates it well.
The folks over at Tuta interviewed Patrick Breyer about this yesterday and his explanation of Chat Control is downright sinister. Link here: https://youtu.be/wSEI-dg3Hpo Let's keep spreading the word about this, the whole Chat Control debate seems to be ignored right now in the media.
> Let's keep spreading the word about this, the whole Chat Control debate seems to be ignored right now in the media. Maybe it is not purely by chance that the EU is dealing with this topic during the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024 ? ;)
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And at every stage people will talk about how horrible EU is as if this has already passed, just like last time.
>And at every stage people will talk about how horrible EU is as if this has already passed, just like last time. Even the idea makes me loose all faith in the institution. How can you be okay with people as deranged as this making rules about the future of your country? "Not everyone is insane", just isn't a particularly strong point.
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If you read >The EU (as often) is being used here as a scapegoat for anti-democratic policies desired by national governments. as >The EU (as often) is being used here as a scapegoat for anti-democratic policies desired by democratically elected national governments. This is a perfectly fine statement. The policy is argued to be anti-democratic because of its substance, not because of how democratic the process is by…
The issue of chat control is also orthogonal to it's "democracy". It is neither democratic nor anti-democratic. It obviously in no way invalidates people's rights to determine their government, labeling arbitrary issues as "anti-democratic" just because you don't like them is very unhelpful.
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If you read >The EU (as often) is being used here as a scapegoat for anti-democratic policies desired by national governments. as >The EU (as often) is being used here as a scapegoat for anti-democratic policies desired by democratically elected national governments. This is a perfectly fine statement. The policy is argued to be anti-democratic because of its substance, not because of how democratic the process is by…
The issue of chat control is also orthogonal to it's "democracy". It is neither democratic nor anti-democratic. It obviously in no way invalidates people's rights to determine their government, labeling arbitrary issues as "anti-democratic" just because you don't like them is very unhelpful.
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There is this in the table: "All services normally provided for remuneration (including ad-funded services) are in scope, without no threshold in size, number of users etc." "Only non-commercial services that are not ad-funded, such as many open source software, are out of scope" Weird right? But it would be weirder if they would outlaw the application of mathematical operations on your own messages... oh wait that's…
> Are they going to put me in jail because I don't want them to read messages between me and my friends or my wife? Them: "If you don't show us your messages, you are probably going to jail. So if you don't change your mind, and end up in jail without having shown us your messages, that means whatever was in those messages was way worse than going to jail. You probably knew you were going to get a longer sentence if…
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The same, it solves a marginal problem (people that throw away on the highway only the plastic caps, and somehow keep separate the bottle), in an absurd way that punishes all the nice users, again, just to solve a small % of very cases. The guys who somehow enjoy throwing away plastic caps, will likely remove it anyway. The same with the spying, all users will suffer, but those who want to work around it, will find a…
Punish is a strong word, it slightly inconveniences all "the nice users". It's really not that big of a deal honestly, you unscrew the bottle, flip the cap up (it kinda locks like that and stays out of your way in one of the designs I've seen, in the other it's just attached and can easily be kept out of the way with a finger), then you drink, I fail to see how you suddenly need two hands as opposed to before...
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>And at every stage people will talk about how horrible EU is as if this has already passed, just like last time. Even the idea makes me loose all faith in the institution. How can you be okay with people as deranged as this making rules about the future of your country? "Not everyone is insane", just isn't a particularly strong point.
When did the EU become a country though...?
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How exactly do bottle caps in the EU end up in marine environments? And if they do that should be pretty easy to fix. These regulations won’t do anything to stop countries in Asia, Africa and other places from pumping their garbage into rivers and oceans… To be fair I don’t really mind the bottle caps (unlike the plastic straw ban) but it hardly accomplishes anything beautiful allowing people in the EU to feel better…
The solution was an EU-wide plastic bottle deposit, this way, it pushes people to bring back intact bottles with their caps and get ~0.10 EUR back for each. And if you are too lazy to bring it back or just a person who throws away stuff carelessly, someone else will do (big sorting centers as it's a big revenue-stream, the cleaners, the homelesses, some bored students, etc).
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/council-to-greenlight-chat-... Let your voice be heard! Contact your representatives (bottom of the page)!
There were elections about a week ago, so people voted for that, did they change mind in a week ? If you go against what people voted for, isn't it denying democracy and the votes of the people ?
People voted for the EU Parliament, which has a far more negative attitude to this proposal.