I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

Post by lannisterstark » Tue, Jun 04, 2024, 4:31 AM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #219

MeImCounting wrote: post #213

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Ok yeah but the thing about the knife is just not true, a knifes not sharp until you de-burr it and if you just continue to grind the edge youre going to just be building a bigger burr and removing metal, eventually the knife will be ground away but thats beside the point. Good knife sharpening does only need a bit of grinding until you reach the grit you want and then de-burr but youre not going to make it dull by c…

Sure you will, because a knife blade good enough to hold an edge at all isn't homogeneous. Good high-carbon steel is harder to make than mild steel. It used to be a lot harder to make; carburization in ambient atmosphere takes an enormous amount of time and fuel, and even then is hit-or-miss. Because that's so, and also because the brittleness that makes high-carbon steel great for knife edges also makes for a very f…

Post by ComputerGuru » Tue, Jun 04, 2024, 4:40 AM UTC

webprofusion wrote: post #218

I hope that long term the browser gets first class Windows support (currently it's via linux running under WSL), just because broad reach is best for longevity/sustainable relevance. If you build for a particular shape/character of OS (linux/BSD as it currently stands) then a lot of the abstraction that would be needed for a truly "cross-platform" app doesn't happen.

Post by throwanem » Tue, Jun 04, 2024, 5:13 AM UTC

lannisterstark wrote: post #221

throwanem wrote: post #219

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Sure you will, because a knife blade good enough to hold an edge at all isn't homogeneous. Good high-carbon steel is harder to make than mild steel. It used to be a lot harder to make; carburization in ambient atmosphere takes an enormous amount of time and fuel, and even then is hit-or-miss. Because that's so, and also because the brittleness that makes high-carbon steel great for knife edges also makes for a very f…

>sharpening steels Are you talking about honing rods? Because they 'sharpen' nothing.

Post by mrdoob » Tue, Jun 04, 2024, 5:23 AM UTC

lcouturi wrote: post #212

admax88qqq wrote: post #204

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Indeed! Now they can use chromium and get a big running start /s I’m not sure what in the FOSS ecosystem will actually help them if they’re trying to take a fresh set of eyes on implementing a web browser. EDIT: ga sibling comment beat me to the joke

Well, they could build their UI using an existing toolkit, like GTK or Qt. Though, when I previously tested Ladybird it seemed to be using GTK and the current AUR package lists Qt as a dependency, so it seems they're already doing that. They could also rely on existing multimedia libraries for audio/video (ffmpeg). Those are the main things that jump out to me. There's so much ground to cover that there's probably mo…

Post by 0xDEAFBEAD » Tue, Jun 04, 2024, 6:08 AM UTC

nasso_dev wrote: post #61

nextaccountic wrote: post #5

> Ladybird now targets Linux and macOS. The SerenityOS target is dropped. Why dropping the SerenityOS target?? Does this mean that SerenityOS's Ladybird will need to continually pull patches from the new Ladybird project in order to keep development? Also: is it really a fork if the new project gets to keep the name "Ladybird"? Will SerenityOS's browser need to be renamed, or there will be two diverging Ladybird proj…

my understanding is that serenity will focus less on the web browser in the first place. it might just go back to being a simple html viewer with rudimentary js support? my hope is that they take this as an opportunity to come up with a purpose built "web" stack for serenity? use it as an excuse to reinvent the web and "fix" the mistakes that were made? maybe by actually Putting Scheme In The Browser rather than js?