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@dang is a no-op, consider contacting at the email in the footer. But on the other hand, that they yanked the blog post is interesting and shouldn't be glossed over by just linking to the archive. What changed? Edit: It looks like Snowflake's official response denies essentially all of the claims in TFA. Maybe Hudson Rock got taken in by a dishonest source and pulled the article when they realized their mistake? http…
extremely likely scenario. Hudson tried to write a splashy hit piece and was met with reality.
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This was a really effective anti-ad for Hudson Rock.
The entry seems written by someone lacking maturity. The candor in the screencap'd chat conversation is novel, and will probably drive clicks. But in its unedited form serves as dirty laundry, and including the language from the threat actor is both unnecessary and inappropriate. I can't tell if the threat actor agreeing HR would have potentially helped avert this problem is a good endorsement or not. On one hand tes…
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#223I don't work for Snowflake but I spend a lot of time working with them and their SE organisation. When working and building demos with clients, SEs create demonstration environments on the same $400 Snowflake demo accounts anyone can. To build demos the client would grant access to that SE. The SE would take some of the data to the demo environment and then work on it. This is further confirmed by the name of the env…
The whole blog post reeks of extreme self-congratulation and youre right, a total scum move to expose the victim. Altogether very weak performance from Hudson Rock.
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Generalizing over the whole nation? Hmm... Where have we seen this?..
In south africa?
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You can definitely bring your own storage (e.g. store your data in your own s3 buckets and integrate it with snowflake) using storage integrations and external tables. See https://docs.snowflake.com/en/user-guide/data-load-s3-config... Personally believe this is the right approach as the data resides in a location fully under the company's control. You could ditch snowflake and the data still resides in your s3 bucke…
Yes, federated queries (external tables) are supported but that is a lot slower than ingesting the data into Snowflake's storage and querying it. Since Snowflake's pricing model is based on computation time, querying external tables are usually more costly because of worse performance.
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Just because there isn’t a “novel exploit” doesn’t mean this isn’t a big deal. Snowflake is susceptible to their SE’s having credentials stolen. These credentials can bypass MFA. And per the article, they have no expiry. That’s strikes one, two, and three. Snowflake’s security practices lead to a situation where their customers are either required, or at minimum encouraged, to share access to broad datasets with Snow…
Having spent a lot of time in the Snowflake ecosystem, a few things to understand. Snowflake is both a platform and a database. Customers can implement any level of security within the system. For example, when Snowflake introduced OAuth functionality, they put a lot of pressure for us to implement it in our tool. We're small enough and they are a significant partner so we priortised and got it into our platform so t…
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Indeed, the less novel the exploit the more embarassing it is. Data stolen because of some crazy multi-exploit zero day chain. Well that is understandable, i don't blame the company. Data stolen because no 2FA support? In 2024 that is just embarassing.
Yes, that's also what I think must have happened—missing 2FA. But it seems it's also not mandatory within Snowflake accounts also, from what I understand from the general message. I've never used Snowflake and assumed that because you push all your data into it, it probably has 2FA enabled by default. Is it optional?
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#228Currently the linked URL 302-redirects to '/'. @dang, consider replacing with: https://web.archive.org/web/20240531140540/https://www.hudso...
@dang is a no-op, consider contacting at the email in the footer. But on the other hand, that they yanked the blog post is interesting and shouldn't be glossed over by just linking to the archive. What changed? Edit: It looks like Snowflake's official response denies essentially all of the claims in TFA. Maybe Hudson Rock got taken in by a dishonest source and pulled the article when they realized their mistake? http…
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So the customer data is actually stored on Snowflakes AWS accounts? What difference does it make what underlying storage / provider it uses then? Also does that mean every data query to snowflake goes out/in to/from internet at egress/Ingress costs?
> So the customer data is actually stored on Snowflakes AWS accounts? Yes. > Also does that mean every data query to snowflake goes out/in to/from internet at egress/Ingress costs? Yes. It's covered comprehensively in their docs, along with the caveats. > What difference does it make what underlying storage / provider it uses then? "Snowflake does not charge data ingress fees. However, a cloud storage provider might…
Snowflake compute instance types cost about $.30-.40 an hour on EC2, so it's quite a markup.
As far as security I do believe they allow the customers to set their own storage keys, so there may be some isolation from a global breach.
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@dang is a no-op, consider contacting at the email in the footer. But on the other hand, that they yanked the blog post is interesting and shouldn't be glossed over by just linking to the archive. What changed? Edit: It looks like Snowflake's official response denies essentially all of the claims in TFA. Maybe Hudson Rock got taken in by a dishonest source and pulled the article when they realized their mistake? http…
Quietly pulling the piece without a retraction is pretty shady as well