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Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#221

I wish they just said, "color grading made easy on the iPhone 15" in their copy. And then if they wanna dive in a explain it, fine.

Yeah, I may be stupid, but I initially thought it's a camera that I can buy, kind of like GoPro, but for cinematic effects, and I was trying to understand what the price is.

same thought this was a smartphone based camera

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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post #26

As a long time amateur photographer (using physical cameras and lenses), I have Halide (by the same company) on my iOS home screen for when I need to take a real phono on my iPhone. I use it all the time without issue. And would recommend it to any photographer. So I paid for Kino without hesitation. Just fired it up, set BNW grade, pressed record, and it immediately crashed. Tried again and it crashed again. Tried A…

I paid for Halide and almost immediately afterward, they announced a policy of locking new features made after whatever version you had bought unless you bought it a second time. It's the only app I've ever bought whose developer has done that bullshit. I won't make that mistake again.

That's how literally every application I ever purchased prior to 2008 worked...

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#223

If you want to say "lets you do color grading", then fine. But claiming/implying this can make "pro video" or stuff that looks like it came out of a cinema camera is absurd . I know they don't say that outright, but it is heavily implied that the only, or major, difference is just color space and grading. And the name is just...laughable. > On a technical level, why does video shot on an iPhone look different than on…

And most importantly, the artificial lighting.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would buying an old version entitle you to a new version?

"Entitled" seems like an inappropriate word here. OP isn't entitled to the software, and the publisher isn't entitled to repeat customers or the perception of being a good value.

What word seems more appropriate to you? "Entitled" is an unfortunately loaded word, but it seems to be the verb most appropriate to me.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s what I said about Halide, before they moved it to a subscription model.

You must be confusing Halide with Filmic Pro.

I think they're talking about this, from Halide's page in the App Store:

In-App Purchases Yearly $11.99 Monthly $2.99 One Time Purchase $59.99

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People are greedy af. Putting on my Older Person hat for a moment, software from indie publishers used to cost in the ballpark of $40 in the late 1980s (that's ~$100 in 2024 dollars after adjusting for inflation). $100 for a single version of a single app. When the next point release comes out, the publisher might give you a discount of 50%, so it might only cost you $50. A major release was often required for comp…

You could almost use this argument to convince me for a complex software like the Adobe products that is constantly getting new, major updates, but for a Pomodoro app? Honestly, $1 seems reasonable.

Adobe was $600 per update. Per app.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#228

I really appreciate that the app is just an up front price! I probably don't really need it but at that price and straightforwardness it's not really a big loss if I don't use it much so I grabbed it. I looked at the other apps and realized they had made Halide as well which I tried out for a bit, for some reason thought it was subscription only & decided I didn't want it that much while clearing out subscriptions, a…

Unfortunately the freemium + subscription model usually works so much better money-wise that it's difficult to justify publishing a simple paid app with upfront cost.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

#230

Just so you know: this app does not support zooming, it only switches between lenses. (This was a little surprising to me, but I'm not a video professional.)

Seems like what I’d expect from a movie making app. Why digital zoom your 4K camera 4x and pixelate your result down to 1080p?
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