> "Update 1: Microsoft has confirmed an issue where users may be unable to access the Microsoft Copilot service"
So not all bad then?!
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#222Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.
Not necessarily massive. Given that Bing works again now, this seems more like an API frontend failure, or an internal routing failure at some level.
Note they seem to have managed to fix the Bing frontend hours ago, but DDG is still dead in the water. Priorities... :-)
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Distribution alone doesn't make a system resilient. A distributed system can help with resilience for anything related to network or hardware failure, but even then you need to make sure the different resources don't have a hard dependency on each other. If you want a resilient system redundancy and automatic failover systems are really important, along with solid error handling. Think about a distributed data store…
It does not garanty resiliency but it does increase it. If tomorow mastodon.social disappear the network might lose 80% of it's content but recovery could be possible even if the server never come back.
My point was just that resilience still depends on how a system is distributed and what else is done.
Distribution alone doesn't really make a difference, though pairing it was redundancy and failovers is going to get pretty far.
The case of mastodon.social is really a question of whether the value there is the network and protocol itself or the user created content posted there. If its the user content, the value is lost when the one host goes away. If the value is the network and protocol then yes, the value of the network is still there even though the data is gone. It does raise an interesting question of whether Mastodon is really considered distributed or not, the network is and hosts are using a shared protocol but the data isn't really distributed.
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#224I had been using DuckDuckGo for the last 2-3 years, but starting from early this year I noticed that their search index just didn’t index some of the things I searched for (enterprise tech stuff). These searches worked ok before and still worked with other engines. So I finally switched to Kagi and am happy with it.
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#22522-May-2024 ... the day privacy (finally) died.
Presume that duckduckgo is not private or otherwise compromised. For example many things I search trough duckduckgo later that day showed up in my twitter/x.com algorithmic feed, coincidence ? don't think so.
duckduckgo don't prevent website to track you or deposit cookies etc. Once you're on a website, let's say twitter, duckduckgo does nothing.
> When you view Twitter content such as embedded Tweets, buttons, or timelines integrated into other websites using Twitter for Websites, Twitter may receive information, including the web page you visited, your IP address, browser type, operating system, and cookie information. (https://developer.x.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/privacy)
So, if you visit a news paper that have embedded twitter post in it, twitter might know you passed by this website.
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#226Maybe this forces DDG and ChatGPT to make their own search engine index and corpus. Sure it might be a few years too late for the former, but thats probably what they said 5 years ago too.
A rare outage should cause an executive to think "let's make our own search engine index"? If for every partner outage i would go "let's do it ourselves' i would be long out of business
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
My money is on expired domain somewhere or security certificate.
A Windows update restarted a critical server automatically. A core service is blocked from starting by a Candy Crush ad installed by the update. The Crandy Crush ad is somehow expecting a Copilot key to be pressed on the keyboard to let the system keep going. MS engineers are waiting for an online purchase of a new $400 keyboard with the Copilot key to complete and planning to run to the data center to plug the keybo…
No way Microsoft could be this inept… could they?
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#228I love the acknowledgement that DDG put on their page.
We're currently experiencing an issue with DuckDuckGo Search. Thanks for your patience while we get our ducks in a row.
In the meantime, you can use other search engines right here by using "bangs"
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#230> "Update 1: Microsoft has confirmed an issue where users may be unable to access the Microsoft Copilot service" So not all bad then?!
I'm still unsure of what MS Copilot is. For the longest time I thought it was GH Cp because of the obvious association, but it's not. I'm assuming it's some bunk ass Bing "AI" assisted search?
I truly think MS is the perfect example of a moat experiencing a drought. Unfortunately, money can't buy rain, it can only pump water from other sources. This never works.