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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by dangus »

sniggers wrote: post #176
marcinzm wrote: post #158

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Nothing about those features is specific to this device. OpenAI can do it in their app, or Google/Apple as a built in phone integration. In fact those companies have more data, more compute, more experience and more end users which matters a lot for AI. And most importantly, OpenAI/Google/Apple can basically get app developers to add any missing details into their apps. Rabbit can't.

>OpenAI can do it in their app, or Google/Apple as a built in phone integration Have they done so or described any upcoming plans to do so? Rabbit is doing it now. Man this site is so anti-hacker it's insane. Probably because it's 90% big tech employees that are actively hurt by startups shaking things up. Should be renamed

I don’t think Rabbit AI has anything to do with “hacker” culture. It’s a dishonest business model based on a grift. They sell you a piece of redundant e-waste hardware that is less capable than existing websites and will inevitably shut down in literal months after Google and Apple inevitably show off their AI OS integrations in their developer conferences.

Building a company that solely exists as a financial vehicle to be acquired or sell $50 plastic computers for $200 isn’t “hacking.” It’s a grift.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by dan_quixote »

ok_dad wrote: post #162
dan_quixote wrote: post #149

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> why it's not just an app If it's just an app...their hardware has no reason to exist AND they are competing directly with Google/Microsoft.

I don’t get why people would pay for a bright orange box, or a snazzy little pin, when you can do the exact same thing with a phone app. Siri and Google’s offering on Android phones will eliminate this market when they start in on this stuff. I don’t see why any company making an AI widget would be valued high, unless they’re trying to get bought by Apple.

No argument from me. I don't see the end of smartphones any time soon. And if pulling a smartphone out of your pocket is too inconvenient, the smartwatch almost certainly has your use-case covered.

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Post by ado__dev »

devmunchies wrote: post #173
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #163

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Pikachu's everywhere were shocked. This is just the same guy, over and over. If he isn't too old, I bet he was into dropshipping too. Always on whatever new grift, always ready to start selling shovels to gold miners. I wish people were smarter about this stuff.

building a hardware company and shipping thousands of devices doesn't seem like a get-rich-quick grift to me. There are a lot of things rabbit can do that you couldn't do on an app since they own the hardware. Just shipped it too soon. The product is definitely not super appealing to me yet in the current state.

name one thing the rabbit can do that a smartphone can't.

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Post by ado__dev »

tb1989 wrote: post #174
datpiff wrote: post #109

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I don't like most of TE's output but the OP-1 is definitely innovative.

Apparently, TE knows this Rabbit person's background as we are talking about millions dollar business. TE's values here are questionable when they decide to go with this guy. As for OP1, packaging a tape effect when it can't produce good sound quality is a fraud. Sampling from FM? Check Klaus Schulze.. Music startups can certainly innovate, such as Roli (Seaboard and Rise), moog. make noise. Open source monome. and,…

The CEO/Founder of Rabbit is on the board of TE.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by WeylandYutani »

starky wrote: post #194

I saw this news and my reaction was, "Of course it is, doing anything else would be stupid." But that on its own doesn't mean it could just be a phone app if the hardware adds something useful to the way the user interacts with it. For example, old Sony mirrorless cameras just ran Android under the hood but the specific hardware is what made those products, not the OS. As a hardware person, both the Rabbit R1 and the…

There was an attempt with folding phones. Is that taking off beyond the "I have too much money" crowd?

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Post by nkozyra »

fragmede wrote: post #215
nkozyra wrote: post #208

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> It feels like we need to wait for the underlying technology to advance before we can get to the next set of interesting products. Probably. I think we've hit a plateau with user interfaces for most connected gear. Sticking a physical scroll button on what is essentially a phone buys me nothing but annoyance. Phones just kind of do what we want and have an acceptable enough interface that the alternatives get in our…

imo that laser display is awesome and I want one, but it's hobbled by the software. I'd gladly pay $700 if it was open and wasn't locked to their ecosystem.

As I've seen it demoed I'd get one as like a raspberry pi or microcontroller peripheral. But $700?

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Post by swozey »

tb1989 wrote: post #174
datpiff wrote: post #109

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I don't like most of TE's output but the OP-1 is definitely innovative.

Apparently, TE knows this Rabbit person's background as we are talking about millions dollar business. TE's values here are questionable when they decide to go with this guy. As for OP1, packaging a tape effect when it can't produce good sound quality is a fraud. Sampling from FM? Check Klaus Schulze.. Music startups can certainly innovate, such as Roli (Seaboard and Rise), moog. make noise. Open source monome. and,…

I do some hobby music production and have no idea where I would incorporate any TE equipment into my life, but I can't explain it, I have this visceral reaction that I want to buy their stuff. It just looks so cool. Thankfully it's not at my "won't use more than 3 days then throw in my music closet" price level so I've never even come close to ordering anything.

I've been tempted to get that cheaper Pocket Operator to see if I'm missing out on something but have abstained so far.

But damn the stuff looks cool.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

ado__dev wrote: post #223
devmunchies wrote: post #173

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building a hardware company and shipping thousands of devices doesn't seem like a get-rich-quick grift to me. There are a lot of things rabbit can do that you couldn't do on an app since they own the hardware. Just shipped it too soon. The product is definitely not super appealing to me yet in the current state.

name one thing the rabbit can do that a smartphone can't.

While the rabbit, based on reviews I've seen, doesn't live up to its hype yet, AI assistants won't be able to do anything you can't do yourself on a smartphone or regular laptop.

Instead, the idea is they will be able to do these things for you, similar to a human assistant. Currently only rich people can afford assistants to manage their lives for them. This could be about to change.

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Post by smitty1110 »

Bjartr wrote: post #191
tb1989 wrote: post #174

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Apparently, TE knows this Rabbit person's background as we are talking about millions dollar business. TE's values here are questionable when they decide to go with this guy. As for OP1, packaging a tape effect when it can't produce good sound quality is a fraud. Sampling from FM? Check Klaus Schulze.. Music startups can certainly innovate, such as Roli (Seaboard and Rise), moog. make noise. Open source monome. and,…

I would love to know about any other device that ticks the boxes the OP-1 does: * Battery powered * Easily backpack portable * Standalone DAW * Piano layout * Physical knobs and keys * Sequencer * Screen (and accompanying UI) large enough to not feel incredibly cramped That's plenty of stuff that beats the OP-1 on plenty of these, but there just isn't much out there that hits all of them at once.

And it's still a joke. Spend $200 less and get and Osmose[1] and have a keyboard that you can actually use, a better synth engine, and something that is actually used for music production. They even off free shipping. Portability is overrated when your keyboard tech is stuck in the early 90's, without velocity sensitivity let alone aftertouch and MPE.

1: https://www.expressivee.com/2-osmose

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