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Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Polanski is French citizen though and key figure in the French cultural circles, also he was well connected enough to be let go in the US in the first place multiple times . While US would prosecute him if they could , they have not tried anywhere as hard to extradite him like they are doing with Assange . Assange is not a UK citizen , UK has some of the weirdest privacy and human rights laws they are not fully part…

Polanski is very different from Assange. Assange exposed US government secrets which directly threatens the US government's power. From the perspective of a government, that's far more serious a crime than (allegedly) raping a child because it directly harmed the US government's interests. Crimes that directly threaten the sovereign are always the most serious crimes especially if they involve waging war against it o…

> has thrown the book at those who trespassed in the Capitol

Really? It doesn't seem that way at all to me, it seems only few rioters have been given a slap on the wrist, none of the key organizers are in jail, neither is head of the moment, many of them who attempted to overthrow the government are serving in congress even now. The leader is the presumptive nominee of a major political party and openly talks about being a dictator when elected. Not one have been disqualified under 14th amendment and does not look at all likely before the election.

The extremely slow speed and ineptitude at which the system has moved so far is just astonishing and is completely counter to your point on Government moves faster, harder when its survival is at stake, compare that to say how quickly Brazil has reacted to a similar attempt by Jair Bolsonaro.

> far more serious a crime than (allegedly) raping a child because

It is sad that we have come far to these days characterize actions by foreign reporters not subject to any U.S. law whatsoever and who merely published and did not leak themselves damning evidence of atrocities and war crimes committed in violation of Geneva convention of which US is a signatory as crimes.

Also I cannot but help notice that you feel need to say allegedly about an horrific incident in which no one disputes the facts, but afford no such benefit of doubt to Assange.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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As someone who wants to see Assange go free, I continue to believe the best outcome here is for him to be extradited and face trial in the US. I do not think the government's case is strong enough to convict him, and his being acquitted at trial would be by far the best outcome possible here. The fact that he has been imprisoned in the UK without trial or conviction for the last four years is insane (he has been impr…

"I do not think the government's case is strong enough to convict him"

wow, you really trust American institutions. but most of the people doesn't and for good reasons.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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They're storing UFOs in Guantanamo Bay now?

Guantanamo Bay detention camp is a secret? But if you know about it ... and I know about it ... then ... maybe it's not a secret prison?

So what's going on there if it's not a secret? Yes... I do know the name.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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The USA is being asked for assurances that they won't charge him with anything that carries a death sentence. They're not being asked for assurances about nukes or cannons. So the UK judiciary are taking the threat of a death sentence seriously.

These assurance requests are routine and often legally required in countries with no or highly constrained death penalty. They happen in -> US extradition cases all the time.

I checked, and they still haven't issued this assurance. So no, this isn't just a boilerplate thing.

Re: Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extradition to US

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Assange did not break into any computers. That was Manning. Publishing US state secrets is not a crime in any other country.

> Assange did not break into any computers. I think that is what the trial is to decide.

No, the USA is specifically only charging him with publication of unredacted documents. They are not charging him with obtaining the secrets (that was Manning) but just with publishing them without redacting the names of US informants. At least, that's what they're claiming at the extradition; what they subsequently choose to actually charge him with once he's on US soil is a different thing.
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