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Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Self inflicted wound in the middle of several days of scheduled depositions. Just about as suspicious as could be.

I'm not convinced. Boeing doesn't want more attention, depositions are stressful, and whistleblowers are predisposed to martyrdom. If you're Boeing, this doesn't make the problem go away, it makes it worse .

For the long game, Boeing has just increased the price of whistleblowing for any would be blowers.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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+1 for quitting. This can be life saving. Finding new purpose then becomes possible.

The probable with quitting is that you can’t change the company from within anymore.

Missing a /s here for sure, no?

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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+1 for quitting. This can be life saving. Finding new purpose then becomes possible.

The probable with quitting is that you can’t change the company from within anymore.

The idea that an employee can change a company from within is fantastical thinking.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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I wish there were an aggressively anti-clickbait news outlet that writes headlines explicitly designed to preempt and neutralize potential misunderstandings. Imagine editors try to anticipate all kinds of ways a candidate headline might mislead the reader, and rewrite the headline to discourage those inferences — succinctly if possible, verbosely if necessary. For this particular piece such a outlet might opt for som…

How about "Ex-Boeing Employee Who Reported Safety Issues in 2019 at South Carolina Facility Dies by Apparent Suicide in the middle of formal deposition which started last week"

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Table stakes for QA. It would have been worse because he reported and escalated these things just to end up having his department butchered further. I still don't see a snap happening until after the testimony was over.

Those depositions are extremely stressfull. Add in years if not decades of emotional stress, prior. So yes, that can cause depression and can lead to suicide. Another case where this happened was Therabis Edit: Theranos, obviously (my Pixel 7 keyboard and I won't become close friends any time soon): one of their lead scientists, who very much opposed cheating and their approach, developed a depression because of that…

> Therabis

Do you mean Theranos? Therabis seem to be CBD weed for dogs, which I deeply hope has not caused any deaths.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #199

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+1 for quitting. This can be life saving. Finding new purpose then becomes possible.

The probable with quitting is that you can’t change the company from within anymore.

Attempting to do so is almost always a fools errand. Unless you have an outsized voice for your position then you will never actually turn a company around and attempting to do so will only add to your burden and worsen your situation.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Anyone know why this isn’t on the front page with 96 pts one hour after submission?

High comment rates on a recently posted story will weigh the story down. This is by design, and the quality of comments presently on this story does much to demonstrate the reasoning behind that choice.

Most likely the story will be reposted or "second chance" resurrected in the morning, when all the grownups are awake and not just those of us having a touch of insomnia.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with. Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

I can't imagine that he would go through all this, and then decide it's not worth it anymore at the very end of his testimony.

People under extreme mental stress tend not to act rationally.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#229
post #10

He was scheduled to appear for day two of his deposition testimony the morning of his death. Had he died Sat night instead of Sat morning, the transcript of Saturday's testimony could have been read to the jury during trial. Obviously that can't happen now and whatever he was going to say in Saturday's testimony is lost forever.

Witnesses often write sign and submit a written witness statement into evidence before appearing. It's probably up to the judge now.

The written evidence gets sent to prosecution and defence. There would be a question whether witness actually did write the statement... but might be better than nothing

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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if you are Boeing the company that would be stupid sure but what about some specific arbitrary high level figure from Boeing? One which if the person says certain things might lose their job because of this or which is afraid to lose more then their job (e.g. due to them knowingly acting in gross negligence for personal gains).

Which one is worse, lose your job or end up in prison?

This was a silly suggestion.

Did you not realize that almost all crimes that have ever been committed, very much including by smart accomplished people with a lot to lose, violated and belied this theory of rational behavior?

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