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Re: Stop postponing things by embracing the mess

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I'm intrigued, but brain.fm requires a credit card for a free trial. Bummer. Edit: I just checked my email and (in the spam folder) was an email from them with a link that works for 3 days. I'm trying it now.

You might enjoy the binaural beats and ambient radio on https://ambiph.one as a free alternative (disclosure: it's my site). Not as science-y as brain.fm but it helps me a lot with focus

You have created a fantastic site. Endless combinations.

Re: Stop postponing things by embracing the mess

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It's very interesting. I wish I could observe it. Don't you wonder though how evolution allowed this trait to come so far though, especially with it being so prevalent. Potentially it meant that for centuries there have been children with poor school grades who simply went off into lower-income careers that they were suited to.

Most of the people in previous generations in my family killed themselves with alcohol at a young age. In my generation, we are all diagnosed with ADHD, managing it effectively (without stimulants), and making 6 figure incomes as scientists and engineers. None of us have any hint of alcoholism. My pet theory is that alcoholism doesn't actually run in our family, but that people were previously self-medicating for the…

> My pet theory is that alcoholism doesn't actually run in our family

There is a lot of research that shows that medicating ADHD via an addictive drug can actually reduce the risk of addiction in the long term, because the dopamine delivery becomes more stable. So not so much a pet theory but actually well-studied science.

> You're morally and practically the equivalent of someone advocating for removing wheelchair ramps, and telling paralyzed people to just walk

Are you really trying to equate ADHD to being in a wheelchair or being physically paralyzed?

This is why people can't take you seriously. 6 figure income and your life is as bad as someone who is physically paralyzed apparently.

> From the bottom of my heart- f*k you.

Do you really think this is an acceptable way to talk to anyone in life, let alone the HN community?

Re: Stop postponing things by embracing the mess

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> We shouldn't stop making peoples lives better in the short term. > I think "scientism" in medicine has been very harmful That's what they said when they were drilling holes in people's skulls and doing lobotomies. Now we are giving children meth and yelling down anyone who wants to discuss long-term side-effects. The obvious reality is ADHD is a means to sell meds and psych appointments. You cannot escape homeostas…

I get why you have this perspective because I shared it a few months ago, before my kid was diagnosed, and then I did a deep dive into the research, and more or less did a 180. You are dead wrong, and have some serious misconceptions, which can't really be explained in a short reply here, but I will outline the main things I think you are missing, if you are open to looking into it. -There are a lot of non-stimulant…

> the effect is tiny compared to the baseline impairment in a person with ADHD.

I'd be interested to read this study if you have it.

> The "neurodevelopment dopamine theory" you're talking about is not a mainstream concept among neurologists

Are you saying its not neurodevelopmental?

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> assistance with breaking down tasks and setting priorities paired with frequent deadlines Pretty much what I am arguing for. Deadlines have to matter. > someone with ADHD might spend a week working on some random detail that doesn't matter, because they think it's important. No one is like "oh, thanks, it was just a matter of working on this thing, my bad, I lost track of time". It's a totally arduous process to ab…

Your response demonstrates you didn't engage with my response. ADHD is not a character flaw, it is a disability. 1. More deadlines for smaller chunks does not imply that the deadlines are stricter; it's about preventing overwhelm and helping with time-blindness. 2. Focusing on the wrong thing is not (always) about "enjoyment", so much as it's about being overwhelmed, bored, under/overstimulated, or being unsure of wh…

> Your wording, particularly "kicking and screaming"

I am describing myself.

Re: Stop postponing things by embracing the mess

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Be cautious, the meds can make it worse in the long run as your brain seeks homeostasis and now demands even more dopamine than before to motivate.

I swear you are on to something. I have been on them for 9 years, and I am basically fried and useless. It's as if I had never been treated at all, if not worse than that. I feel like I am in a constant state of burnout, without actually being burned out, so to speak.

I mean ADHD medication is essentially meth. At first it works, and then you need a little bit more to get the same effect.

I was diagnosed with ADHD at 19 years of age (quite a while ago) and it took me 9 months to realize the medication was a net-negative for me.

I encourage you to seek other forms of treatment that aren't medication-based. What works for me is a lot of exercise, good sleep, healthy diet and limiting "easy" dopaminergic activities like scrolling random content or watching random YouTube videos.

Good luck.

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