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Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by dagmx »

theyinwhy wrote: post #215
filmgirlcw wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I agree. I rolled my eyes when I bought the Studio Display because of the price (I got the VESA option so I also had to factor in $200 for an Ergotron LX just so I could use it the way I’d want) and I’m annoyed by its lack of power button, its garbage web camera, and the really that it has no better picture quality than the v2 LG UltraFine 5K it was replacing, despite costing $300 more, but if it broke tomorrow…

So what's the benefit of the ASD if it has no better picture quality than the LG?

Slightly brighter, much better build quality, much better audio and much better camera.

But at the same time, I see the LG is down to $999 (I suspect it’ll be discontinued soon if it isn’t already) and it’s debatable that the studio display is $600 better. It’s definitely $300 better though.

That said, it is increasingly more difficult to buy the LG. So it’s become less of a choice.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

steve1977 wrote: post #205
babyshake wrote: post #184

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There will be an inflection point with devices like Vision Pro, where you'd rather do things you do right now with a laptop, tablet or TV in the Vision Pro instead of with those other devices. Then the other devices will be the ones gathering dust. The hard part is being able to know when that inflection point comes. But I think there's a very good chance that 10 years from now, it's already behind us.

if putting on the Vision Pro is as fast and seamless as grabbing a tablet or opening up your laptop I guess.

when it's a pair of sunglasses with the Facial Studio Code already opened to your project, in other words.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by metaphor »

zone411 wrote: post #115
gumby wrote: post #11

I am thinking of upgrading my work station and I suppose this is cheaper than three 5K TB monitors. But is it really as good?

Get a 43'' center monitor with two LG DualUP 16:18 ratio monitors on the sides. Cheaper and much much better than Vision Pro. You will need a large desk though.

> Get a 43'' center monitor with two LG DualUP 16:18 ratio monitors on the sides.

Sounds nice for the office, but find myself conflicted with the notional operating value prop of continuously juicing north of 200W less graphics compute (?!) just putting idle pixels on screen on a home workstation that seldom gets shutdown.

Curious if you've realized meaningful productivity gains since switching to that setup, and what graphics card(s) are you using to drive them?

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by nomel »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #212
mvkel wrote: post #211

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Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair. That wouldn't be a bad coding setup, but my eye strain was pretty significant, too. I ended up returning mine. This is a necessary 1.0 to build out the app ecosystem, etc. but it's absolutely no…

> The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair Lying on a bed would also do the trick.

I've had some great coding sessions on my ceiling, with my quest 3.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by sensanaty »

theyinwhy wrote: post #215
filmgirlcw wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I agree. I rolled my eyes when I bought the Studio Display because of the price (I got the VESA option so I also had to factor in $200 for an Ergotron LX just so I could use it the way I’d want) and I’m annoyed by its lack of power button, its garbage web camera, and the really that it has no better picture quality than the v2 LG UltraFine 5K it was replacing, despite costing $300 more, but if it broke tomorrow…

So what's the benefit of the ASD if it has no better picture quality than the LG?

It's always crazy reading those kinda comments. He keeps maligning the product that he had to pay a premium for, comparing it to equivalent products that are cheaper and perform the same, yet he's still going to make his next purchase another, by his own admission, overpriced Apple product.

It's mind blowing, I don't wanna reach for the low-hanging quips here but it really is like an Apple iCult type of vibe

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Post by anonzzzies »

ngokevin wrote: post #95

When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…

I ditched my laptop for the xreal well over two years ago. I will never go back. This looks a 1000 times better but too expensive for now.

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Post by kromem »

vundercind wrote: post #139
elliottkember wrote: post #125

It's summer here in New Zealand, and I have been using my AVP to code outside in the sunshine. There's no monitor glare and I'm not stuck inside. It's great.

Wow, this is the first thing anyone’s written about the AVP that’s made me go “maybe I would use this kind of device…” I didn’t even think about how nice they’d be to use outside on sunny days, compared with a laptop (or, coupled with one).

Of course the irony is that being "outside" is actually watching a live video recording of it from outer cameras on a screen in front of your face.

I'm not necessarily criticizing that - more thinking that we're likely approaching a fidelity threshold where you no longer care it's a screen (I still don't think we're quite there yet and suspect this is just one gen before the device that will survive the few months in VR great filter).

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Post by Turskarama »

nilkn wrote: post #202
Turskarama wrote: post #194

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Here's my prediction for this: you need to have input with the same fidelity and ease of use as a mouse and keyboard. The mouse input analogy is probably pretty close with eye tracking, but text input? I can't even imagine what it will look like to make that work as nicely as real touch typing.

I got an acrylic tray [0] that holds a keyboard and trackpad and can comfortably sit on my lap to use with the Vision Pro. It’s truly marvelous and makes the VP feel like an actual laptop replacement, with the only real problem being that visionOS has too much iPadOS heritage and not enough MacOS. [0] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCS71K6P?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_...

Sure, but one of the big upsides of vr is the ability to move around a space. If you're just sitting at a desk (or on a couch) anyway then you might as well just have a couple of huge monitors. In the case of the vision pro it would even be cheaper to use several large monitors instead.

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Post by shuckles »

randmeerkat wrote: post #206
reneherse wrote: post #201

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Similarly, I'm intrigued by the possibility of using it for coding whilst aboard a sailboat, where having multiple large physical screens isn't a possibility due to limited space and lack of suitable mounting surfaces. Very curious to see how tolerable the UX is in an environment that's almost always experiencing some degree of motion independent of the user.

> Similarly, I'm intrigued by the possibility of using it for coding whilst aboard a sailboat, where having multiple large physical screens isn't a possibility due to limited space and lack of suitable mounting surfaces. It’s amazing to me what people will do to avoid being present in the moment. You’re on a sailboat, enjoy it, smell the ocean, feel the water on your face, breathe deeply and take it all in. If you’re…

Life on a sailboat is mostly pretty boring.

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Post by anonzzzies »

sircastor wrote: post #132

I rented a Quest 2 a couple of years ago to try out programming in it. I’d read a post someone made about his spending 8 hours a day in it. For me it wasn’t quite enough. The fresnel lenses make “God rays” at the edges and the text was readable, but not pleasant to read. I’m planning sometime to try the Quest 3. The Vision Pro seems like it might be the best option because it’s purpose built for that. Also I’m a Mac…

I have done about a year of coding on the quest 2 fulltime daily in Immersed and it was fine; now I skipped to the xreal which I like better. I don’t have a Vision Pro or quest 3 yet but I like the portability of the xreal so much now…
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