It says free for OVH but on their website for S3 I see: Outgoing public traffic $0.011 /GB What am I missing?
With a VPS you get free egress
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#222It’s worth noting that, while the big 3 providers do gouge for egress, they typically also have superior network performance and reliability. This is especially true when comparing against budget options like Hetzner.
Does Google offer 100x the network performance of Hetzner? Because egress price is 100x more.
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#223"Relax, " said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave!"
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#224Pls also consider the egress network speed. I got burned by scaleway when they changed their blob store pricing. Trying to my grade out to Hetzer would have taken months at the network speeds they were providing
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#225One trick to watch out for: a cloud provider offering inexpensive egress can still make high-egress expensive by controlling the network speed of their instances. Several vendors require you to scale your whole instance if you saturate any of the components (like needing to upgrade from the 2 CPU to the 4 CPU instance to increase the network throughput, even though you don't need more CPU). On paper egress looks chea…
Like scaleway
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
We’re talking about egress - traffic leaving the network. Due to traffic patterns and other reasons (Hotel California) ingress is always free, egress is charged. There is some debate about the status of hosting video when using Cloudflare as a CDN. These comparisons are for hosts/object store. Cloudflare R2 has no restrictions on the type of content while not charging for egress.
R2 has some reasonable bandwidth usage in their terms of services and I don't see very large enterprises willing to play suspension roulette against unknown limits
I think you're confused
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Everyone knew what the costs were going in. AWS, cloud was NEVER the cheaper solution. It was never faster, it was never better. It was easier, and easier came with a price. Like lambs to the slaughter lots of people embraced it. Amazon is a profitable company because of it.
>It was easier, and easier came with a price. I kind of doubt it's easier. If you use your own servers you need some stuff to manage them. If you use cloud, you need some cloud engineers to manage your cloud infrastructure. On top of that, if your developers use cloud APIs and frameworks, they have to learn that.
It's easier but only at the beginning, when the needs are simple and you dream of unpredictable QPS spikes that cloud will magically handle for you, summed up pretty well in https://world.hey.com/dhh/we-have-left-the-cloud-251760fb
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assumedly, implementing the logic yourself for transcoding source content into various encodings on demand. If you're storing 1080p h265 MP4s in R2 and the client can only support 480p h264 it'll request that but you need to "appropriately transcode" for them. The alternative is a service that does this for you, like Cloudflare Stream. Upload source video, service handles transcoding and integrates easily with standa…
I don't think Cloudflare's free egress covers video storage and retrieval https://community.cloudflare.com/t/can-we-serve-video-with-r... Please correct me if I am mistaken; also R2 is not a CDN, and more like s3 in terms of delivering from the edge No issue with your comment specifically, just wondering if you know. currently using s3+cloudfront for mp4 storage+delivery, and would like to move to something better if…
Their terms say
https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-applicatio...
Unless you are an Enterprise customer, Cloudflare offers specific Paid Services (e.g., the Developer Platform, Images, and Stream) that you must use in order to serve video and other large files via the CDN
The Cloudflare Developer Platform consists of the following Services: (i) Cloudflare Workers, a Service that permits developers to deploy and run encapsulated versions of their proprietary software source code (each a “Workers Script”) on Cloudflare’s edge servers; (ii) Cloudflare Pages, a JAMstack platform for frontend developers to collaborate and deploy websites; (iii) Cloudflare Queues, a managed message queuing service; (iv) Workers KV, D1, Durable Objects, Vectorize, Hyperdrive, and R2, storage offerings used to serve HTML and non-HTML content; and (v) Workers AI, a Service that allows customers to use Cloudflare’s inference infrastructure to invoke select third-party machine learning models (subject to applicable open source licenses or third-party terms of use for such models).
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
AWS charges for internal traffic too, both cross-az and cross-region.
The inter-AZ charges kill me. They’re charging you for traffic over what is almost certainly private fiber, of a distance no more than 50 miles or so. Just absurd. Then, they have the audacity to recommend you make everything Multi-AZ. “Don’t worry, RDS-RDS traffic isn’t billed!” Yes, but the apps running in us-east-1a that are hitting -1b and -1c due to load balancers most assuredly do bill for traffic.
BTW, if nothing changed the last year or two, then even if you want to run in a single AZ, but also to have (automatically) replicated RDS instance, then I believe the replica MUST be in another AZ. Meaning that any potential failover puts you in exactly that position you have mentioned - apps running in one AZ, database in the other. Suddenly you pay 0.01USD/GB for transfer between those, billed in each direction separately.
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
European providers benefit from lower cross-connect fees in datacenters and more internet exchanges for easy peering. It's not surprising they offer more bandwidth at the same cost.
The US has plenty of internet exchanges. And plenty of smaller hosters with cheap bandwidth. Usually located near an internet exchange. It's not like AWS or GCP have locations that are terribly far from major exchanges either.
You still have to pay for cross-connects to connect to exchanges in datacenters.
> In North America, the median cross-connect price is $300, more than five times higher than $58, which is the median price in Europe.[1]
Of course, that difference means nothing to a hyperscaler, but it's led to a difference in pricing culture between the smaller providers.
1: https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/study-u-s-fiber-cross-...