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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by lordswork »

pgeorgi wrote: post #177
fouronnes3 wrote: post #165

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

From one of the earlier announcements Google has made: - Bard is that talkative text interface, a product. - Gemini is the LLM design that currently backs Bard (but also other Google AI products). - Gemini "Basic", Advanced and Ultra are different sizes of that design. This is conjecture, but "Ultra 1.0" probably indicates that they intend to release more models based on the Ultra configuration. Since that's the most…

With the Bard name retired, the mapping looks like this:

   Gemini Models     gemini.google.com
   ------------------------------------
   Gemini Nano
   Gemini Pro       -> Gemini (free)
   Gemini Ultra     -> Gemini Advanced ($20/month)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by possibly_not »

fouronnes3 wrote: post #165

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

Bard was absolutely trashed when it first released, so I'm not surprised they are trying to rebrand it.

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Post by svat »

pier25 wrote: post #212

Is Gemini Ultra significantly better than Bard? Tried Bard a couple of times recently and was not very impressed tbh. Seemed to forget the context of the conversation very often. Like I had to repeat again and again to not show external links with previews and not give explanations to every little thing.

• Bard when launched was using one of the PaLM models, which is inferior to GPT-3.5 (the free version of ChatGPT).

• Bard since a couple of months ago was using Gemini Pro, which is roughly comparable (a bit worse or better depending on whom you ask) to GPT-3.5.

• Bard is now (today) called Gemini, available as "Gemini" and "Gemini Advanced". The former is still comparable to the free version of ChatGPT, and the latter version costs $20/month and uses the "Gemini Ultra" model, and is meant to be roughly comparable to GPT 4 / the paid version of ChatGPT. (Their paper claimed it to be better than GPT 4 on some benchmarks, but real-world usage will show which way it goes — but it should be significantly better than Bard from recently. Edit: See https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/google-gemini-advanced-tast... from someone who's been using it for six weeks.)

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Post by true_religion »

TechRemarker wrote: post #185
fouronnes3 wrote: post #165

Bard? Gemini? Gemini Advanced? Gemini Ultra? Ultra 1.0? I guess they haven't figured out naming yet. This has got to be the most confusing naming since the xbox series x.

I think that’s a side effect of each time they release a version to compete with ChatGPT and it’s not as good so they have to at the same time announce a few version that is suppose to be better than ChatGPT and each time it’s not overall so they have to announce a new version. Think this will continues for a while especially since non OpenAI companies have access to much less free data troves than they did not that…

I feel that by virtue of being a search engine, Google has access to a lot of data that is now locked up but was available in the past.

They just need to curate their data but I wouldn’t be surprised if their pile is as large as OpenAiz

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avbanks wrote: post #208

Not even close to ChatGPT :/ Bard essentially ignores a good chunk of the prompt which is the most important (generating the anki formatted card that you can directly copy and paste). "create an anki deck of the top 5 brazilian portuguese verbs and the top 5 tenses. The format should be like the one below (but adding one line for the 5th verb tense). An explanation of the tense and an example sentence should be inclu…

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Post by dobladov »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #126

Playing with Gemini it is clear that the context includes some details about me. For example, I asked about flights to Japan and it knew what airport I would want to fly from. Would be interesting to see exactly what information is provided.

Most likely from the Google Flights integration. https://gemini.google.com/extensions

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by agumonkey »

xyst wrote: post #209
edu_do_cerrado wrote: post #138

I heavily use Chat GPT's API in my day job, as it is the core of our business (Ai-powered startup). When Gemini Pro launched, me and my team tested it in the same day for our product, but we where disappointed as it is was a bit worse than gpt 3.5 (at least in the same prompts that we already had). I really hope that Gemini Ultra surpass gpt4, it is always exciting to see and use new advanced tech, but I'm still a li…

Anybody really surprised at this point? G has had DeepMind in their pockets since ‘12-‘14 and made little advancements. OpenAI changed the game in half the time. G is inferior and losing the race.

It's doubly strange because Google had an implicit reputation of being the unbeatable giant in computing research and resources.. many expected them to compete and smoke chatGPT in a few weeks. It's been months and nothing came up except fumblings and confusion.
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