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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by philsnow »

lgessler wrote: post #127
asah wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

emacs. Totally free and open source since 1976. oh, sorry, you asked for an IDE and not an operating system... /s seriously, budget a day or two for the ergonomics and a week for wrangling plugins, but some of the most productive developers in the world use emacs and they never need to worry about vendor issues, porting issues, not having a GUI, support for some weird file type, ability to create some funky type of m…

I tried to get into emacs a few years ago and just got fed up with the incredible regularity with which packages broke during routine updates. It was at least an hour a week on average, I feel, conducting bug hunts for either minor (this or that keybind/function doesn't work) or major (I can't get any packages to load) bug hunts. Was I doing something wrong? How do emacs people deal with this? Admittedly, I was using…

> packages broke during routine updates

> How do emacs people deal with this

The same way anybody working with any package system does, by pinning ancient versions and/or just never updating all packages, at least for packages that aren't so widely used that they pretty much are never broken

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by [deleted] »

ufo wrote: post #145
SCdF wrote: post #110

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Collaborative editors I presume you mean? Because 99% of popular editors have linux builds. Anyway, the VSCode plugin ecosystem is probably your best bet there: https://code.visualstudio.com/learn/collaboration/live-share

Precisely, I'm looking for collaborative editors. Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't seen this one. Unfortunately, it seems that this plugin only shares the editor window and does not keep a local copy of the files. I was wishing for something that would let both sides run & compile the code during the editing session, without having to stop for git push. https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/live-share/issues/3524

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by haswell »

Zekio wrote: post #198
haswell wrote: post #178

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In product management parlance, this is low hanging fruit. Easy to implement and capitalizes on something the market is highly interested in at the moment. Given the concentration of developers who use Macs, and the accelerating interest in LLM-assisted coding, this makes a lot of sense to me. And while it may be true that AI is a craze, this is also a very real and useful feature grounded in a solid use case that ha…

"Given the concentration of developers who use Macs" fairly certain this is a silicon valley thing, the vast majority uses Windows for development and I wouldn't be surprised if macOS and linux are pretty even these days

I think you may be right. This comment was based on 90% of the people I interact with using Macs, but those interactions are indeed mostly in SV.

In that sense, the “concentration” is in the SV region, and may have been a bad choice of word by me when thinking about the broader ecosystem.

With that said, macOS enjoys ~33% share in the latest Stack Overflow developer survey [0], and I think this illustrates the point somewhat. This is a healthy enough portion of the market to focus on, especially in the case of implementing low hanging fruit.

- [0] https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#overview

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by philsnow »

dilyevsky wrote: post #207
M4v3R wrote: post #168

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What do you mean? "L" and "H" do move the cursor right and left for me just fine. It does not have macro recording/playback or extended commands though so it's not a full fledged vim emulation mode unfortunately.

Yeah, it's pretty annoying for any long-time vim user to not be able to use the macros, which Zed doesn't support. Biggest issue I've had with this editor for sure.

This is my problem with all "vim modes"; the 90% of bindings that they cover works until your fingers' muscle memory wakes back up and tries `gqip` or some other niche vim thing.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by alluro2 »

bogwog wrote: post #217

The homepage has a benchmark that compares Zed's "insertion latency" to other editors, and this is the description: > Open input.rs at the end of line 21 in rust-lang/regex. Type z 10 times, measure how long it takes for each z to display since hitting the z key. Could someone clarify what that means? My interpretation of that was to go to https://github.com/rust-lang/regex/blob/master/regex-cli/arg... and start typi…

They are opening the same specified code file (input.rs) in each editor and measuring event/process/highlight/etc pipeline duration.

Which is straightforward, but also depends a lot on how each editor is configured for Rust support and what functionality you are actually getting in that time.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by AdilZtn »

jeppester wrote: post #203

I was hoping that zed, because it was designed from the ground up to be a collaborative editor, would allow me to start a dedicated server (headless instance) on a development server/container, and then let me and my colleague both connect to it and work together. Such functionality would be wildly useful for both remote development and pairing, dev containers etc. Instead I'll have to stick with VS Code remote devel…

Completely agree with you, I think one of key missing feature is remote develop

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by thomastjeffery »

It took me way too long to figure out that Zed exclusively runs on OSX. Why is that not in the first paragraph of their landing page?

edit:

It's not even on the landing page, or even on the about page! The landing page has an entire section, "Work with code on any machine"!

This is worse than bad.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by haswell »

chme wrote: post #192
haswell wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In product management parlance, this is low hanging fruit. Easy to implement and capitalizes on something the market is highly interested in at the moment. Given the concentration of developers who use Macs, and the accelerating interest in LLM-assisted coding, this makes a lot of sense to me. And while it may be true that AI is a craze, this is also a very real and useful feature grounded in a solid use case that ha…

Are really that many developers using Macs? Maybe I am in a different bubble/country, but most professional developers and hobbyist hackers I know have either ThinkPads or Framework laptops running Linux or sometimes Windows, if they have to.

33% according to the latest Stack Overflow developer survey. A healthy enough number to focus on that user base.

I do think there are bubbles though. Macs are popular in SV, and there’s a very healthy portion of the developer community focused on this user base.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by robin_reala »

porsager wrote: post #218
robin_reala wrote: post #181

Really nice and fast (which is the reason I’m still using Sublime instead of VS Code). I’ve only found one piece of functionality that’s dramatically slow compared to Sublime so far: selecting all of the current highlight. In my current file I have 2,396 occurrences of ` `. Selecting all of them in Sublime (with ctrl + cmd + g) is certainly less than 200ms. Doing the same in Zed (with cmd + shift + l) beachballs my m…

Did you make an issue for that? (I'm sad about that too)

I have now: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/6440
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