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Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by graemep »

sph wrote: post #19

I think about Hans Reiser pretty often, incidentally, because there is a quote from him I read as a teenager that stuck with me. "The utility of an operating system is proportional to the number of connections possible between its components, than it is to the number of those components." — Hans Reiser (from http://web.archive.org/web/20040126210110/http://unununium.o... ) It's hard to reconcile good things a person…

Lots of people who do good work have done awful things.

I love Oscar Wilde's plays, but he was a paedophile sex tourist. Eric Gill created beautiful stuff, including typefaces most of us probably use or read fairly often, and he sexual abused his children and his dog.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by coldtea »

sph wrote: post #19

I think about Hans Reiser pretty often, incidentally, because there is a quote from him I read as a teenager that stuck with me. "The utility of an operating system is proportional to the number of connections possible between its components, than it is to the number of those components." — Hans Reiser (from http://web.archive.org/web/20040126210110/http://unununium.o... ) It's hard to reconcile good things a person…

>This is the only time I feel I am able to share that quote, on a thread that hopefully tries to look past the right and wrong of his actions.

Well, people would still use the theory of relativity if Einstein was proven to be a serial killer, so intelligent people who don't play it "hollier than thou" should be able to separate between some person's acts and their unrelated achievements or expressions.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by _a_a_a_ »

graemep wrote: post #221
sph wrote: post #19

I think about Hans Reiser pretty often, incidentally, because there is a quote from him I read as a teenager that stuck with me. "The utility of an operating system is proportional to the number of connections possible between its components, than it is to the number of those components." — Hans Reiser (from http://web.archive.org/web/20040126210110/http://unununium.o... ) It's hard to reconcile good things a person…

Lots of people who do good work have done awful things. I love Oscar Wilde's plays, but he was a paedophile sex tourist. Eric Gill created beautiful stuff, including typefaces most of us probably use or read fairly often, and he sexual abused his children and his dog.

> Oscar Wilde's ... was a paedophile sex tourist

I've never heard of him being into children, have you a link for this, thanks (also, 'sex tourist'?)

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by scotty79 »

nyolfen wrote: post #196
scotty79 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You realize the volunteer soldiers that enter a battle to kill other humans also fall under this scope? Yes. And I strongly believe there's something wrong with their brains. Not so wrong as with the brains of murderers. But to let someone's words override your innate blocks against killing is some weaknes of the brain, easily exploitable with disastrous consequences for humanity. It makes wars feasible.

i think if you take a look at human history, the animal kingdom, etc, you will find that in fact it is you who has something strange going on in your brain

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/sep/28/natural-born...

Humans and other primates are more prone to this deficiency of the brain than other mammals.

But even so, only 2% of humans were killed by other humans. And since many killers usually kill more than one person killers are a miscule minority even in such deficient species as humans. Even with all the cultural pressure that glorifies killing in the "right circumstances".

Given that anyone who volunteers to be a killer has something wrong in him. Falls on the far end of some spectrum.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by CaliforniaKarl »

When I was young, and I was first experimenting with Linux, I was kindof confused at being asked to choose a filesystem type.

I wasn't completely confused: I was a Mac OS user, and I had been around when the HFS+ filesystem was introduced to replace HFS. So I read through the documentation I could get, I learned how ReiserFS was a journaling filesystem, and decided to use it.

I kept on using ReiserFS as my preferred filesystem, any time there wasn't a need to use a different filesystem (for example, I continued using ext2 for /boot). I don't remember ever having an issue with it.

Then I started dealing with larger filesystems, and XFS was available, and I understood that XFS worked better on large storage. Around the same time, I learned of Hans Reiser being charged with killing his wife. I was confused and sad, but moved on.

I hope for all the best for Hans Reiser's children.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bombcar »

jeffrallen wrote: post #207
not2b wrote: post #70

I worked with Hans Reiser in the late 90s. He was a contractor with the company that I was working for, and he was doing that (working on logic synthesis for FPGAs) by day and trying to start his company at night. He was very passionate about his technical ideas, though in those days he had difficulty explaining them, so I went back and forth about whether he was a genius or a crank (I decided that he was some combin…

I met him at the same place at the same time and had the same reaction to him. Are you me?

If it makes you both feel better, I had a similar reaction completely removed except as a user of RieserFS.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bombcar »

CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #228

When I was young, and I was first experimenting with Linux, I was kindof confused at being asked to choose a filesystem type. I wasn't completely confused: I was a Mac OS user, and I had been around when the HFS+ filesystem was introduced to replace HFS. So I read through the documentation I could get, I learned how ReiserFS was a journaling filesystem, and decided to use it. I kept on using ReiserFS as my preferred…

My journey was similar, but I started with plain EXT2 and eventually investigated (and then moved) to ReiserFS because it came back from unexpected shutdown so quickly. Knowing what I know now about filesystems, I probably could have solved my problem by mounting /mp3s read-only on ext2, but that was then.

I eventually moved on to XFS when it came into the kernel because I got tired of finding tail-packed parts of /etc/password in other important files, preventing boot.

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