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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by toyg »

boringuser2 wrote: post #91
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only site I've found behaves terribly in Firefox is LinkedIn. Weird pauses on page load that lock the whole browser (not just the tab) for like 5-10 seconds. No idea what they're doing to make this happen, but it's odd. Which is, well, fine, because LinkedIn is mostly a dumpster anyways.

Any site that is on the edge of performance (often due to bad engineering, which you can blame on time constraints) will perform vastly better in Chromium.

Social networks really have no business being "on the edge of performance", FFS.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by markx2 »

iso8859-1 wrote: post #178
markx2 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Archive Page Bypass Paywalls Clean CSS Exfil Protection Decentraleyes DDG Privacy Essentials Ghostery NoScript Privacy Badger Privacy-Oriented Origin Policy Stylus Tampermonkey uBlock Origin uMatrix Yes, there is overkill in there but that's fine. It does not impact my browsing experience.

So when you want to enable JavaScript, you have to click around in both uMatrix and NoScript?

I have to temp-trust some elements in NoScript, then look in uMatris for the specific items I'll set to green. That probably sounds like a hassle and I get that. But I've been doing it for so long it's the norm.

If I need to unblock trackers in NS, I close the tab and go on my way.

And every once in a while I'll factory reset both NS and uM.

This probably sounds very tinfoil territory but as I've said I'm happy with my internet experience.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by hanniabu »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #30
jamiek88 wrote: post #12

We all switched to Firefox back in the day because it was better. Better than IE, there was no chrome and safari was a joke. Entreaties and ‘trying to make Fetch (firefox) happen’ won’t work, evidently. How do we make Firefox obviously better ? I’m core market for Firefox and just use Safari. Better battery life. And it’s just as good for privacy. At least that’s my impression. Is it wrong? If I don’t use it there’s…

Firefox + uBlock origin is far better than any other browser without UBO.

Mullvad browser

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by deafpolygon »

torstenvl wrote: post #188

I use Firefox as my main browser. I love Firefox and I want it to succeed. However... a person who uses Firefox as their primary browser must generally still keep Chrome installed. A person who uses Chrome as their primary browser has no need to keep Firefox installed. Firefox should endeavor to fix that. First, Firefox should honor age-old tradition, swallow its pride, and spoof 99% of the Chrome user agent string.…

> First, Firefox should honor age-old tradition, swallow its pride, and spoof 99% of the Chrome user agent string.

This leads to the larger issue of not knowing who your visitors actually are. If 75% of all Firefox installations spoof Chrome, then you won't know that they are actually FireFox users. This can drive adoption rates down as they stop caring about making things work on Firefox.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by sepisoad »

i really like firefox to shine. but it’s very ugly and turns me off every time i use it. it's been around forever but the UI has never looked good, I’d argue that in recent years it’s gotten even uglier.

recently i’ve been using duck duck go browser on macos, it’s literally my main browser for the past 6 months and I’m very happy with it’s simple and beautiful UI.

i mentioned duck duck go browser because of multiple reason, first of all, there are many of us who are willing to ditch chrome, and a lot of us can live without all the goodies that come with chrome, a lot of us can live with a browser that is a bit slower than chrome, but i’m sure there are also a lot of us who cannot force themselves to deal with an ugly browser.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by TheCleric »

bluescrn wrote: post #82
Slackwise wrote: post #44

I use PWAs extensively and Firefox decided they won't bother to implement them, so that's going to be a no from me. Rather than wanting the web platform to be first class, they really want it to languish as a second-class citizen. Really sad, seeing as they also fired devs, and invested in "AI" instead.

What's the real use case of PWAs? They just seem like another way to attempt to shift users from the 'proper web' into a place where blocking ads is more difficult. Personally, I wish we could purge the vast majority of 'apps' from the world, they shouldn't be apps in the first place, most have no need to run native code, they should be links to websites, sites that can work on more-or-less any device in any browser.

I used to be the maintainer for Nativefier (which made web apps into native apps via Electron). It was very popular because many people don’t want certain sites to be one of X tabs in one app, especially when those sites act like they’re own apps. So we gave users the ability to treat these web “apps” like any other apps.

We actually shut down the project because a good PWA implementation does this better than we ever could. PWAs can have extensions like ad blockers (very difficult to impossible in Electron). PWAs get automatic browser updates (very difficult with Electron).

PWAs are great, and FF’s implementation of them is not.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

utybo wrote: post #34

I'll switch to Firefox when they get proper vertical tabs like Edge's. I know Microsoft Edge has a really bad reputation, but damn it I can't live without its vertical tabs, and I can disable most of the idiotic AI crap. I know there are plugins, but they all feel quite hacky and are simply not as good.

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by trts »

behnamoh wrote: post #183
jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

>\ Hot take: I tried FF for a long time but finally switched to Brave. Yes, I'll be downvoted for saying this but it's objectively one of my top 3 favorite browsers rn. 1. Brave 2. Edge 3. Safari I like each of them for different reasons. Brave (after disabling annoying features such as crypto and VPN) is awesome and its iOS app is the only one which can play videos in the background, has dark mode, and syncs really…

Brave is really good and always surprising me with features while largely staying lean and out of my way.

They recently added a chatbot that runs locally they call Leo based on llama2. It's pretty impressive that you can perform LLM tasks on the current page without the use of any 3rd party service. And of course you can pay them for the souped up version. https://brave.com/leo-release/

Feels like I am alone in thinking the crypto features of Brave are cool. And not because I think that industry generally isn't full of slime. But micropayments for content has been a good, latent idea for a generation, and here they've simply built it as a default feature.

I still use FF and Brave equally because of my experience with the first browser wars and my mistrust of Chrome, having become the new IE.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by Drakim »

Klonoar wrote: post #203
ranting-moth wrote: post #9

If you keep feeding the Google monster you soon won't be able to browse the internet without a 3rd party attesting that your computer is worth browsing that site. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit...

This was reworked to be a more limited proposal specific for Android Webviews, IIRC. Fairly recently (last month)?

And after that's normalized, then Google will enhance your user experience by bringing "Android Webview security" to Chrome on android, you know, it makes you really secure, it's really to help you keep safe.

A few years down the road, a surprising amount of companies insist you can only use their product on those secure smartphone browsers because of it's enhanced security, so Google helps you out by adding a special "Android Secure Mode" to desktop Chrome.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by Vinnl »

nashashmi wrote: post #61

Firefox needs bookmarkable containers. It is almost there ... Bookmarkable Containers are opening bookmarks in a specific container. And I don't like the hacked extension that implements this feature as a workaround using container sites.

Someone yesterday mentioned this extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-url-in-c...

As I understand it, that would allow you to add a bookmark for `ext+container:name=MyContainer&url=https://mozilla.org`, which would open mozilla.org in MyContainer.

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