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Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#221

I have been using Kagi for the past 9 months. I can't wait until they can fully replace Google for me, but I have a few problems with it. 1. Some niche domains are entirely not crawled by Kagi. Obviously, Google crawls a ton more and while Kagi can get 90% of what I need, I must fall back to Google occasionally. 2. Searching for restaurants or maps is poor. I didn't realize how much I relied on Google reviews for bus…

> Obviously, Google crawls a ton more I'm not sure how this is possible, Kagi uses Google's results https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm... Perhaps those sites are just getting downranked by Kagi's algorithms

Interesting. I'll go deeper next time. Often I give up if it's not on the first page like I expect.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#222
post #84

I really like Kagi. The only thing bugging me is there is occasional delays when searching, at least from the UK. Google's instant search definitely has spoiled me there.

Reporting these when they happen to kagifeedback.org will go a long way (screenshot of page with inspector in browser open). We do not run any client side telemetry so we can not be proactive about this - need reports from users!

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#223

I've been using Kagi as my default search engine for about 2 months now. I love it, and feel so far that it's well worth the $108 per year: just by not having to spend mental energy to scroll through the first several sponsored results; and try and decide if a result is paid or not. I set Kagi to be my default search in my browser (Chrome). For specific searches like stocks, maps or restaurant reviews, I still use th…

I'm surprised how many people here don't use an ad blocker...

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#224

I have been using Kagi for the past 9 months. I can't wait until they can fully replace Google for me, but I have a few problems with it. 1. Some niche domains are entirely not crawled by Kagi. Obviously, Google crawls a ton more and while Kagi can get 90% of what I need, I must fall back to Google occasionally. 2. Searching for restaurants or maps is poor. I didn't realize how much I relied on Google reviews for bus…

>2

No other search engine will be able to compete with Google in the short or medium term on business reviews and opening hours, because the business owners send their information and opening hours themselves to Google, and they have billions of Google Maps users to write reviews. There's nothing Kagi can do to compete, at best they should start purchasing this stuff from Google and integrate it. Or we as users have to learn to open Kagi for web searches and Google Maps for local business searches. That's the easiest way.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#225

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10M people European country here, no issues. I get good results in the native language for "restaurants in [random 15K people town]", "[random local food] recipes", info about taxes from gov websites, recent local events, my own name (high school's website), my mom's name (her business website), random hobby forums.

I think the question is about the paywall indicator, not about Kagi search in general. I tried some searches in three different languages, and mostly Kagi didn't identify non-english paid webpages. It could only identify one (which wasn't paywalled at all).

Oh, that makes sense. I assumed there was a hardcoded list of possible paywalls and how to recognize them, but I guess there could also be some kind of heuristic that might not work for different languages.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#226
post #87
post #6

I find it kind of hilarious that a paid search engine is highlighting paid articles to help their users avoid them.

we really need a better way of paying for content. There's some attempts going around of browsers or extensions paying sites, but the ones i've seen felt kinda scammy. i'd love some service where i can put in $20 a month, and it gets split up among the sites i've visited, with options to give bigger shares or exclude sites completely. probably not gonna happen for a while though, having to set up something to receive…

I'd use a service like that as long as this removes all advertising and third-party analytics from the site as well.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might have similar results in many cases, but they're very different things. For a start, if uBlock blocks a domain then it's a click away from accessing it just this once. On the other hand, it only helps in browsers it supports. On the gripping hand, uBlock Origin can block individual resources, not only entire domains. I'm a happy user of NextDNS rather than a PiHole, but the rationale is the same: use DNS bl…

Agreed, I also use both. NextDNS/PiHole are great because you can configure them as the root DNS providers at the router level and give everyone in your household and guests on WiFi a painless ad-free experience while layering uBlock on top for the sneakier ads like Youtube. The only downside is email unsubscribe links. Those annoyingly tend to be on domains blocked by the various block lists NextDNS uses.

NextDNS have a checkbox labeled "Allow Affiliate & Tracking Links" for domains used in unsubscribe links -- I check it, and rely on uBlock Origin blocking them unless I'm trying to unsubscribe from something.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#228

I’m wary of making Kagi a habit since I am positive in medium term they won’t be profitable with their current model. Flat rate won’t cover outliers and abusers, so once they really start losing money on expensive LLM-based features the regular users will get burnt—either I will have to pay more, or the experience will get worse due to cost-cutting measures, or they betray my trust by monetizing user data, accepting…

> usage-based billing

US corporations doing this never offer proper spending limits per timespan (f.e. Amazon and Microsoft offer this but don't offer real limits - their wording explicitly allows them to go infinitely over and you will just be fucked). If they started doing this I would probably unsubscribe tomorrow (I'm currently a paying user), the culture just isn't there for them to get that right.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#229

Perhaps this is not meant for me. I use gpt-4-turbo frequently, which costs only $5 per month. For the same price, if I were to purchase from Kagi, I would need to limit my quota, like using a different search engine for unit conversion or obtaining a simple Raspi pinout. Why design a product that encourages users to use it less? In my opinion, a $5 with limited searches doesn't justify the cost.

openai doesn't respect your privacy at all

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

#230
post #87
post #6

I find it kind of hilarious that a paid search engine is highlighting paid articles to help their users avoid them.

we really need a better way of paying for content. There's some attempts going around of browsers or extensions paying sites, but the ones i've seen felt kinda scammy. i'd love some service where i can put in $20 a month, and it gets split up among the sites i've visited, with options to give bigger shares or exclude sites completely. probably not gonna happen for a while though, having to set up something to receive…

Payments online are a giant nightmare pit because the US finance world is very very scared of sex work. As long as that doesn't get solved, I don't see easily accessible and distributed payments working in a way that doesn't involve hoops most folks don't want to jump through (i.e. sending in ID to some corp that will definitely leak it a week later or cryptocurrency).
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