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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by fsflover »

miki123211 wrote: post #138
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #57

Youtube seems to me to be a bullshit test platform. They will work around ad blockers and continue to pile on repetitive and banal adverts that have nothing to do with the user until they reach breaking point (where people flee and seek alternatives), and then they will relax their system to show marginally less bullshit. The confusing part of this battle is the app users, who do not agree with the avalanche of adver…

Video hosting is expensive and needs to be paid for somehow. Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does. You can go the Nebula route and require users to pay (which means far fewer users) or require creators to pay (which means far fewer creators). You could also require creators to host the videos themselves, but that also requires money, expertise and causes downtime when a video goes viral. There's…

> Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does.

PeerTube distributes the load among many independent servers, which can be even run by individuals. So no, not every competitor will have the same problems.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by growse »

gorhill wrote: post #52

A reliable way I found to confirm whether there is new anti-content blocker code released by Youtube is to visit uBlockOrigin's reddit sub[1]: If there are well over 1,000 "here now" (near top right), this confirms the anti-content blocker code has been updated. If well below 1,000 "here now", all is fine. At time of writing, it's fine. * * * [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

Someone needs to write a reddit "here now" prometheus exporter.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by davidhyde »

bad_user wrote: post #219
SiempreViernes wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, ad revenue is an important method of funding media, but that is a very different claim from saying that YouTube's implementation of ad delivery is anything close to good. The simple fact is that the ad ecosystem YouTube directs has produced lots of low effort "content" farming, enterprises focused on raw output at the expense of quality, truth, and frequently the intellectual property of others.

That may be true, but if you don't like YouTube, go somewhere else. The argument that it's your machine and you choose what to run on it no longer holds when YouTube clearly no longer wants people with ad blockers as visitors. So watch ads, pay up, or go somewhere else. I always get downvoted for stating the obvious, but YouTube's monopoly was helped by adblockers, because alternatives, like Vimeo, couldn't different…

Some people would be ok with paying but you cannot pay and still be an anonymous user. You need to be logged in and trust that Google won’t track you if you ask them not to.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by AlexandrB »

throw0101b wrote: post #131
kibwen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's permanently dispense with this weird notion that blocking ads is theft. When you're listening to the radio, it's not theft to change the station when ads come up. When you're watching TV, it's not theft to mute the TV and get a drink when ads come up. Youtube has zero moral expectation that people will actually watch the ads it serves. They're giving a product away for free, and people are consuming it for free…

> Let's permanently dispense with this weird notion that blocking ads is theft. So what is a better term for unauthorized use of compute and bandwidth? The terms of service for YT are: watch ads or pay for premium. This is so that YT can pay their bills (hosting, salaries, cheques to creators). > They're giving a product away for free, and people are consuming it for free; end of story. No they are not. They are prov…

I for one have never seen the YouTube terms of service, nor been prompted to agree to them.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by malka »

endisneigh wrote: post #70

Imagine valuing your time so little you waste it trying to block instead of just abstaining or using premium. When Facebook started being user hostile I stopped using it wholesale. Anti Google YouTube folks haven’t gotten the message yet. If you make 25 an hour - the bottom decile wage for software engineering - and waste more than half an hour on this a month, idk what to say. That’s a minute a day. Chop chop. By th…

I value me not being mindraped, more than I value my time.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by sureglymop »

CapstanRoller wrote: post #143
autocorr wrote: post #10

Newpipe also works great on Android! Haven't seen an ad since I installed it, and you can also download videos and play while minimized.

Won't using such third-party clients cause your account to get flagged?

It does not have a login functionality. It let's you subscribe to channels without an account.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by Brian_K_White »

kmlx wrote: post #189
paulryanrogers wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paid services that still show ads? Cable, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, etc.

i never got any ads on netflix, disney+, prime video or youtube premium.

Incorrect.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by krapp »

fsflover wrote: post #221
miki123211 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Video hosting is expensive and needs to be paid for somehow. Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does. You can go the Nebula route and require users to pay (which means far fewer users) or require creators to pay (which means far fewer creators). You could also require creators to host the videos themselves, but that also requires money, expertise and causes downtime when a video goes viral. There's…

> Any competitor will have the same problems as Youtube does. PeerTube distributes the load among many independent servers, which can be even run by individuals. So no, not every competitor will have the same problems.

So the cost is borne by users' power bills, data rates and available bandwidth. If PeerTube usage were scaled to the level of Youtube (making it a competitor) that would absolutely turn into a problem.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by drexlspivey »

hunter2_ wrote: post #94
gorhill wrote: post #52

A reliable way I found to confirm whether there is new anti-content blocker code released by Youtube is to visit uBlockOrigin's reddit sub[1]: If there are well over 1,000 "here now" (near top right), this confirms the anti-content blocker code has been updated. If well below 1,000 "here now", all is fine. At time of writing, it's fine. * * * [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

The number has climbed by almost 100 in the past couple of minutes. Interesting to see if the HN effect temporarily ruins your rule of thumb...

We are going to break ublock origin if that continues
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