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The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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I randomly had the issue that after booting up Linux, I didn't have any sound. Turns out it was related to my Windows dual-boot setup! When restarting from Windows, Windows doesn't shut down my realtek audio device, but only puts it to sleep and Linux fails to start it. Only solution is to always do a shutdown from Windows and then hitting the power button. The issue is still there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/10…

Had the same thing going the other way: rebooting from Linux caused Windows 10 to bluescreen during boot.

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

#223

I'm guessing this is the webp bug. The auto conversion to webp on the backend, signaled by chrome, resulted in a bad image that crashes the browser due to grammarly parsing of said bad webp. Safari doesn't tell the server it does webp and so it downloads the actual gif, and doesn't crash.

GIFs don’t get automatically converted to webp files.

says who? any web server (nginx, whatever) can be told to do this

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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I get that people don't care or understand this, but that's also saying he cc's OpenAI, and therefore probably Microsoft, and therefore almost definitely the NSA, on all his business communications. What a world.

About 0.1% (0.001%??) of business communication might have adverse consequences for you/your company if forwarded to Microsoft or OpenAI or the NSA. The rest is absolutely fine. And you’re probably already using Gmail or Android or Chrome or Exchange365 or iOS or *something* that could theoretically forward your comms to a tech company (and the security state). Compared to the alternative of having your colleagues th…

Given the context of an engineer with such poor writing skills that they can't be promoted I'd say the odds anything they write mattering to Microsoft or the NSA are quite a lot closer to 0%. In the only circumstances that it did matter, I'd guess you're not unlikely to be better off with them in the loop anyway since we're talking deep cover industrial espionage.

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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I think about this a lot, too. My academic interests are pretty broad, and I could improve in every subject, so why don't I? I think there are two reasons: a lack of focused effort, and the steadily increasing demands of adulthood. I do reasonably okay at self-guided education when I want to, but there's definitely a difference vs. a structured secondary education environment, where there is accountability and other…

> My academic interests are pretty broad, and I could improve in every subject, so why don't I? My suspected culprits: 1) The massively increased complexity of ordinary living is overconsumining our personal resources. and 2) For post-GenX and later, the erasure of childhood (free-roaming & peer-only hours) sabotages[1] the reward systems (joy) that supercharge early learning. The less joy there is to facilitate lear…

Isn't the opposite true with regards to complexity of ordinary living? We've specialised so far that most people aren't required to or even capable of sewing their own clothes, hunting/growing/foraging their own food, building their own shelter and furniture. Something our great grandparents would find unbelievable.

Modern living is so monotonously boring and devoid of any challenge that people are find more and more creative ways to try and get an ounce of that physical and mental stimulation back in their lives (hobbies, exercise, gaming, etc).

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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There are a lot of people whose professional outcomes are meaningfully constrained by their ability produce clear business English. I know a guy who used to get inexplicable feedback about his communication that boiled down to “write better.” This limited his ability to get promoted. He runs all his comms through ChatGPT and asks it to “make this more professional” and doesn’t get that feedback anymore.

I get that people don't care or understand this, but that's also saying he cc's OpenAI, and therefore probably Microsoft, and therefore almost definitely the NSA, on all his business communications. What a world.

Man, I don't know where most of the people here work, but the shit most people write about in their jobs is inconsequential and not super secret. It's performance reviews and meeting notes. 99.99% of the workforce isn't writing about the company's secret sauce... Ever. Maybe director level and up. Also, most companies make physical things, not software, so there's no secret sauce to share through email anyway.

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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> You're basically boxed in to your specific domain or degree that you often don't even really choose and changing or switching careers is almost impossible. This was true 50 years ago but hasn't been true since the 90's or so. France may well be the exception in this, but then again, France is an exception in many ways.

Isn't it still true in Germany? With the different high school tiers that can even make it impossible to enroll for a university degree? Though you are right that I shouldn't say that Europe as a whole is like Germany or France even if it's sometime easy to assume so haha.

There are different tiers of highschools and different tiers of higher education.

The first tiers are more targetted towards craftsmanship (e.g. arithmetic and trigonometry you can quickly do in your head, you start working earlier in life, as early as 16) while the latter tiers are more universal and abstract (e.g. math concepts that have better use for computer science, you start working much later, around 25 years old).

You can switch between tiers or fetch later.

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

#228

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I get that people don't care or understand this, but that's also saying he cc's OpenAI, and therefore probably Microsoft, and therefore almost definitely the NSA, on all his business communications. What a world.

Man, I don't know where most of the people here work, but the shit most people write about in their jobs is inconsequential and not super secret. It's performance reviews and meeting notes. 99.99% of the workforce isn't writing about the company's secret sauce... Ever. Maybe director level and up. Also, most companies make physical things, not software, so there's no secret sauce to share through email anyway.

> most companies make physical things, not software, so there's no secret sauce to share through email anyway.

The conclusion does not follow from the premises.

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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People that are comfortable with text-based forums may not realize the extent of illiteracy and semiliteracy in the US. Decades ago, a small company was able to convince most of the education system (public and sometimes private) to use a teaching method based on junk science. The end result is that there are many millions of adults in the current workforce who can barely read, and many of them work in office setting…

I didn’t see a direct mention of it in the links, but is the junk method referred to called Reading Recovery? First I’ve ever heard of it, at least by name. Found it by googling the name Marie Clay that I did see mentioned in one of these links. (Annoying how hard they work to bury the lede.)

If I remember right (it has been a while since I dived into this topic), Reading Recovery was one of the programs mentioned. It was supposed to be a supporting approach to teaching reading to kids who were struggling otherwise.

The mainstream approach that really made a hash of things though was "Whole Language" learning, largely commercialized by Fountas and Pinnell, which eventually provided the program and associated materials to classrooms around the world. This program relied, in part, on guessing: if a child got stuck on a word, they would be asked to guess what word might fit in the sentence. Sometimes they were given context clues, like a picture on the page. Any efforts to associate individual letters or letter combinations with sounds was abandoned.

Wikipedia has something of a watered-down overview of this at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_language, but I really recommend listening to the podcast in the second link in my parent comment (https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/), APM Reports put together a compelling examination of what happened, and it's explained well. (I do wish it was also available in a more typical article format.)

Re: The weirdest bug I've seen yet

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I don't think I would believe myself if I found this being a specific gif. This is a great amount of coincidences in code to cause this. Grammarly is an application that I don't get. The fact that people are installing, basically spyware, on their computers just to get grammar suggestions to make their writing more boring and add a spellchecker (which is already inside web browsers) is pretty astounding to me. The fa…

that. especially what is puzzling me is: > For security reasons, we do not have Chrome crash reporting enabled. so we do not want to have stack traces or whatever else this includes for security reasons, but installing basically keylogger that does spell check is ok there are companies that forbid using chatgpt for even html development because this could leak company secrets, but grammarly on confluence/jira is just…

The vast majority of companies don't write any code ever. Not everyone is developing "apps".

If you're going to generalize "everyone" you need to understand your business type is a tiny tiny minority of what most people do.

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