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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are these charts simply displaying the gradual decline in children-under-13 walking and riding bicycles?

There's a line specifically for vehicle occupants.

Fair enough, but I don't think anyone doubts the increase in safety provided to vehicle occupants.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

Not buying from Tesla because you hate Elon is just as silly as buying from Tesla because you love Elon.

Well no, buying from Tesla gives Elon money and legitimacy.

If you don't like Musk, why would you contribute to his success?

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I continue to be puzzled by people's strong opinions on Elon. He's says dumb things on social media but there seem to be unusually strong sacred contagion effects from that. Buying petrol from Shell or cereal from Nestle? No problem. Buying a Model 3 from Tesla? No way! Honestly, I'd be surprised if there weren't a ton of people with the same views on immigration or trans issues or covid or whatever, each associated…

The separation of art and artist is a complex thing that differs from person to person. I think one universal aspect is that one's willingness to divest from art (or product, in this case) is relative to the ratio of disgust felt for the artist to desire for the product. Elon has reached a point of cultural over-saturation while Tesla's products move in the wrong direction on the ladder of cultural cache, the result of their (Tesla vehicles') own foibles and the industry as a whole just becoming more competitive. While plenty of people won't buy his cars, I'm sure they will or would still use a Tesla Supercharger if they could, because the value there is simply too compelling and the relationship is brief but powerful.

Elon in particular has become a liability thanks to his deliberate efforts to be the face and voice of Tesla. For me and clearly others, it's no longer possible to think of Tesla independently of him. His products need to be that must better to work against it and they're just not making the cut.

Other products -- Shell, Nestle -- are reevaluated for disgust-vs-need each time. Most of us have tiny, brief interactions with these companies. There's no meaningful relationship, so I'd have to be extremely furious with a brand to avoid their product. Right now I'll get gas from Shell but not Lukoil, for instance.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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My biggest gripe is the wheel covers. They make this look like a ridiculous Robocop movie prop.

I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of them.

the tire sidewall is just as bad.

BFG KO2 is the prettiest A/T tire out there, take notes Tesla!

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is the countdown silly?

Because it's not a rocket launch operation, it's a announcement of price and specification. You won't magically own one when the countdown reaches 0. The romantic idea of 'launching' everything in tech is wearing a bit thin.

It's exciting! There's built-up anticipation. Even if it's just specs and price, I'm sure the teams who worked on it are excited to share their work with the world!

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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My biggest gripe is the wheel covers. They make this look like a ridiculous Robocop movie prop.

weird, that's my favorite thing. I like old RoboCop movies though.

To each their own, I guess. To me it appears like a toy. I also love RoboCop movies (and live in Detroit, yeehaw)
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