Live data from Hacker News

Normal Operating Sounds

tesla.com

221–230 of 273 posts

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#221

I own Model Y and "High-Pitched Whining Noise while Accelerating" is my favorite sound. I hear it pretty much every day and it never gets old. I wonder if other EVs make that sound, but it's just incredible.

We used to have a Bolt, and it had some whine. My '19 P3D had a lot of whine at full tilt, and my '23 3LR has a good bit as well. My guess is all EVs have it to some extent.

I kinda want the ability to have that piped into the car. Make it sound like an R/C car.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#222
post #127

background: I had a model 3 for a couple of years and now have a Y ( no longer have the 3). The 3s are insanely quiet. The Y is ok but has a whistle at certain cruising speeds (90-100km/h). But when they are supercharging they are both ridiculously loud. Like having AC on full bore. Also starting a charge makes the most bangs and pops, regardless of the charger type. I just finished a 2000km drive and slept in the ba…

I think maybe you just got lucky. My first Model 3 was sort of quiet (just wind noise, Model 3s and Ys are quite loud compared to other similar cars). My current model 3 (a 2023 model) has a whistle at highway speeds that I haven't been able to isolate. Along with a fluttering sound, which may be related, and sounds like it's coming from the passenger side mirror area.

The next Model 3 ("Highland") uses laminated glass in the rear windows, whereas the current one just uses it for the front. Should be the quietest yet.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#223
post #7

This one is pretty cool and definitely surprised me. > Motor Humming or Whirring when Navigating to a Supercharger … > In some circumstances (such as cold weather), it is normal for the motor(s) and components to make noise, such as humming or whirring as it generates heat to warm the Battery. Super cool that the motors can be used for things other than moving the vehicle. It reminds me of how ESCs for RC vehicles us…

The Car Care Nut talked in detail about the multi-purpose design of Tesla's heating systems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HC72p2gfuQ

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#224
post #45
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Text would take a lot longer to convey information than a short chime. You would also have to localize all the sounds.

"TERRAIN, TERRAIN! whoop whoop PULL UP!" -- the makers of the Terrain Avoidance and Warning System (TAWS) thought that this extra information was useful. Maybe the timing is different or maybe it's just cultural.

No localization necessary on that one, all commercial pilots are required to speak English.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#225

What's the UX reason to use a chime rather than an (customisable) announcement? I suppose I'd get used to the alarms if I used the car but all of them on a page is confusing.

Confirmation tones are used to convey that the car registered a deliberate user action (e.g. a button press). For example whenever you press the unlock button on your key fob, it would quickly become annoying if the car announced "The car is now locked". In the case of confirmation, you know what the tone is signaling, because you just performed the action to create the tone (and don't need a lecture about it). Mildl…

> it would quickly become annoying if the car announced "The car is now locked"

Ha, I'm having flashbacks to my neighbor's old Chrysler New Yorker (from the K car era). "The door is ajar, the door is ajar." And couldn't just say it was open, that doesn't sound fancy enough.

> the first time you hear it, the tone will be seared into your memory

Indeed, the joke is that the Tesla alert tone causes PTSD after you hear it the first time.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly one of the arguments for lane splitting in California was the propensity for bikes to overheat out here when stopped in traffic. My 650 did not have a fan but it did a good enough job heating up my crotch to a nearly unbearable degree on a hot day without it.

I have certainly experienced overheating due to traffic on my air cooled bike. Now I am thinking about adding a fan to my oil cooler that would either be on a switch or even on a proper thermostat.

I have as well, and it's why I'm getting a liquid-cooled bike.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#227
post #59

I hope one day, Tesla would use these sounds to troubleshoot and perform preventative maintenance.

What would be the point? The car has a huge number of more accurate sensors for nearly every thing you can think of. If you're bored go look at some of the errors people have posted. It measures a huge number of variables directly that will indicate an issue well before ambient noise will.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#228
post #28
post #7

This one is pretty cool and definitely surprised me. > Motor Humming or Whirring when Navigating to a Supercharger … > In some circumstances (such as cold weather), it is normal for the motor(s) and components to make noise, such as humming or whirring as it generates heat to warm the Battery. Super cool that the motors can be used for things other than moving the vehicle. It reminds me of how ESCs for RC vehicles us…

My understanding is that high-end residential heat pumps (e.g. Mitsubishi HyperHeat) will do this at lower temperatures as well. If the temp drops into the zone where the heat pump starts losing effectiveness (which on such systems is still pretty low, supposedly mine provides the full heat rating down to around 0F), they can run the blower motor in a less efficient regime to supplement the heat pump with a bit of re…

Don't know about high end - I literally have the cheapest unit from Midea and it does exactly this when it's cold.

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#229
I think I would happily pay money for an archive of high-quality recordings of what various problems sound like, in a variety of cars.

It would really be nice not to have to go in and try to imitate the sound to my mechanic, and it would help give me an idea what the repair ought to cost.

I've spent thousands of dollars on misdiagnosed (or misrepresented) "repairs," and it would be great to get a diagnosis from the mechanic, look it up, and say, "No, it doesn't sound a thing like that."

Re: Normal Operating Sounds

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought about this growing up. How the engine’s heat is used directly to heat the cabin and there is no heater. Also my gaming PC in the winter. It feels like free compute given I’m heating anyways.

A gasoline based ICE is so incredibly inefficient it needs to shed heat or it would melt down. It makes more heat than that it makes motive power (the thing it is designed to do...). A 50 KW engine makes 200 KW(!!) of heat (at full throttle). Most of that heat energy exits the system through the exhaust gases but there is plenty that gets stuck in the body of the engine and you need to remove it from there somehow be…

I'd like to add that ICEs need to run hot to minimize cylinder wall heat losses and allow more of the explosion to be converted into work instead of heat, although too hot and they break of course. Ideally the engine block would be at the same temperature as the combustion temperature, but we don't have the materials to achieve that yet.
Post reply on HN